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Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by SilasX » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:04 PM UTC

telesilla wrote: post #50

rebuilder wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure at all the pandemic is going to be more significant historically. The 9/11 attacks did what Al-Qaeda intended them to - got the USA mired in an expensive, unwinnable war, which ultimately broke the US will to fight and seems to have resulted in a major reconfiguration of US foreign policy.

Let's wait a while. The long term effects of the pandemic are yet to set in.

There’s the joke that you can say the same thing about the French Revolution (“too early to tell”).

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by maybelsyrup » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #48

dharmab wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you not get the intro pop-up explaining this is intended for use as part of a history class lesson plan for students born after 9/11?

No, I didn't notice that. And if that's the intended use for this stupid website, then it's a terrible lesson plan they've made. It doesn't actually address any meaningful aspect to 9/11 besides make it appear to be from the "beforetimes."

Damn someone's on the rag. Go smoke a joint bud, it's gonna be okay

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by chitowneats » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

polytely wrote: post #64

chitowneats wrote: post #54

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Heart disease and cancer kill many more: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm... Beware the myopia that sensationalist news coverage tends to encourage. Never forget all the lives lost. Not just the 3000+ we lost on that horrible day (RIP), but the millions more around the world lost in the wake of the actions we chose, as a nation, to take in the "war on terror".

Heart disease and cancer aren't contagious, so your actions on that front will only improve your own life, while being a bit more careful with covid will potentially prevent sickness in a lot of people.

Social contagion is real. The U.S. has much higher rates of illness and death due to complications from obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc, than other developed countries, because of our shared culture of poor diet and sedentary lifestyle.

You pass on your way of life to your children. Your friends and family reinforce each other's decisions every time you make a meal, make plans, etc.

This stuff is all vitally important. And in fact, we would have lower rates of covid fatality if a larger percentage of our population took this seriously.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by elkjer » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

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Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by n8cpdx » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #40

What is the rationale for this kind of thing? What motivates a person to construct such a strange relic to 9/11 like this? And how come, after doing so, did the creator fail to make any sort of reasonable points about the event? This feels like some sort of opportunistic resume-building kind of project, made from the very real deaths of thousands of innocent people. And not one mention was made about the US's horrifi…

primary source documents are one of the most powerful ways to understand an event and the impact it had.

I'm almost in my 30s and I barely remember 9/11. Most kids today, live in a world (for Americans at least) that was profoundly changed by 9/11. They deserve to be able to understand that moment.

The first time I went to an airport, there were (National Guard, I think) soldiers standing around with heavy duty guns. Later, it was removing shoes and all the rest of the nonsense security theater we still put up with. A few years later, the fabled pornoscan.

People deserve to be able to learn about the history of their world. It is deeply offensive to me that you would suggest people can't handle primary sources and need someone to make 'reasonable points' and do people's thinking for them.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by bal34t » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

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Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by notadev » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:07 PM UTC

I was in the Navy and had been at my first command at a nuke base in the PNW. I walked to the galley for breakfast and they had some TVs you could watch while eating. I watched the second plane hit. I walked to work which was a telecommunications station. We processed messages for different regional commands and would call them directly whenever they had an emergency action message (EAM). I walked in to a completely chaotic watch floor. Every message was an EAM that day. Every phone was ringing or in use, every computer that could alarm was alarming, our dial up modems were constantly busy. All my coworkers were shouting and running here and there. I had never seen it like that and as a young Sailor it was very worrying. Everyone we called to inform them of their EAMs would ask if we knew what was going on or knew if someone was mobilizing but we were just as much in the dark as everyone else.

I remember at one point our Leading Chief Petty Officer (LPCO) yelled for everyone to stop what they were doing and told us to call our parents and loved ones to let them know we were safe. That was the longest day I’d ever worked at that command and no one left that day, even those from the previous night shift. The fact that no one, even our CO, had any idea what was going on…that the military was in the dark, was such an unnerving feeling.

Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by cmmiecock » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:07 PM UTC

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Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by lunchboxes » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:08 PM UTC

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Re: September 11, 2001 media synced in real-time

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Post by SilasX » Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 5:09 PM UTC

dharmab wrote: post #30

Wayback machine for some web news of the day: https://web.archive.org/web/20010911230123/http://www.nytime... http://web.archive.org/web/20010911204733/http://www2.cnn.co...

I lost the link, and couldn’t easily find it from Wayback, but radio talk show host Neal Boortz would post his program notes at like 7am eastern, and he had already posted by then that “the big news of the day is Michael Jordan’s announcement of returning to the NBA”.

Naturally, he made a ton of updates to the page after the attack, but left that bit and it was kind of funny to see that over the 9/11 news.