Here is the link for the spreadsheet for the curious (you'll need a Google Maps Api key): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16T9kLpbqciKCLNWOoOV1...
Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
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Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#82Oh boy -- I'm the cofounder of Wanderlog ( https://wanderlog.com ), a YC W19 startup exactly focused on planning travel. And I've really read all these articles This originally was big on Hacker News in 2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8419658 This is really just the latest in a long list of articles about why travel planning startups aren't worth pursuing: - https://www.phocuswire.com/Why-you-should-never-…
I think the space is hard because it involves tying together a number of different functionalities many of which are rarely done well, some which have never been done well.
Good luck! (meant sincerely).
Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#83Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#84This is a great quote! I only have a finite number of slots in my brain. If I don't remember it, I won't use it. Why do I feel like computer industry people turn a blind eye toward this? It may be that successful tech people have practically infinite slots in their brains, so they aren't sympathetic to us regular people that do not. An example is the common question "Why didn't you use [X framework] to do this?" as i…
Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#85I had founded Flights With Friends for group travel planning shortly before this post. I read it when it came out but knew the point about travel being rare wasn't the cause of these product failures. The trouble with trip planning software is that making one that is 10X better than just planning it manually is very, very difficult. People love thinking about their trip and online tools don't make that more fun for t…
it seems like most travel planning software fails due to the too-common misapplication of technology to solve marketing problems.
Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#86I do miss old school Foursquare, only somewhat apropos.
Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#87I created a failed travel app which was pitched as "Tinder for Travel" (also an unsuccessful pitch as some people thought it was Tinder while you are traveling, but wouldn't that just be Tinder?).
The idea was not a travel app, per se. It was for weekend staycations, since I had the problem of coming up with an itinerary for the day if I wanted to go out and about. Where to go in the morning? Where to have lunch? What afternoon activity could I do? Dinner? These were typical annoyances I had every weekend so I figured an app would help.
The app was too broad, imo. If it were to be successful, it probably needed to start as a feature. One idea the app's co-creator Zach came up with was spots for the perfect instagram post. Personally I was thinking to narrow the scope entirely to, say, a weekend in Healdsburg (this would suffer from the problem Garry discusses, though!).
I believe there is something to the staycation idea, as it is exactly what you'd want on a vacation as well. It's too nebulous even after having thought about it for such a long time, but I'm glad I built it or I'd still think the vision was a perfect match for reality.
(Regarding the dreaming comments made by a couple of people: it may be true, but I've been told by family for whom I've planned trips manually that I do "a great job" -- they have no interest, and neither do I, about planning the trip but being taken along for the ride. So there's probably truth to both. People could certainly fantasize about their trip while using a tool to help plan it, even if it were years in the future.)
Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#88"Hey Siri, book me a flight to Vancouver for next January when prices are below $400"
"Hey Siri, show me my travel itinerary"
Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#89Again, I gotta nominate "Tinder, but for pickup basketball" as the most common bad startup (or at least app) idea. I get excited college students hitting me up with this nearly every semester, like clockwork.
That's not a bad idea, it's a good idea. Maybe a bad 'business idea', in that it probably won't make a ton of money, but as a solution, expanded into other casual sports, it might make sense. Pick Up BB has a lot of participants, who are not at the court at the same time. An app where you tap a button and say 'Who's Up For Hoops' and it connects you with others, is a great idea. You could work with cities to schedule…
Re: Travel planning software: The most common bad startup idea (2012)
#90> How often do people really plan trips? For the typical working adult, probably once or twice a year if you're lucky. One thing I think all founders/Product people should consider is that there are off label(so to speak) uses for everything. Many many people use travel planning software as escapism from drudgery. This is an opportunity not just to sell them travel, but also anything that immediately salves their bor…
> Many many people use travel planning software as escapism
Heh yeah I caught that too. My wife plans many, many trips per year - but we certainly don't go on all of them, hah. The planning is a hobby in itself.