My kids have no concept of linear TV. My 9 year old came back and told me that a friend had a broken TV as when they turned it on, the program was already half way through. Their 'channels' are netflix, amazon and disney. When I had the choice and they were pre-school then sure, we watched things like Alphablocks on iplayer. I can force them to watch Attenborough or Blue Peter, and they enjoy it, just not enough to w…
The bargain at the heart of the BBC is fraying
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#32My kids have no concept of linear TV. My 9 year old came back and told me that a friend had a broken TV as when they turned it on, the program was already half way through. Their 'channels' are netflix, amazon and disney. When I had the choice and they were pre-school then sure, we watched things like Alphablocks on iplayer. I can force them to watch Attenborough or Blue Peter, and they enjoy it, just not enough to w…
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#33The numbers listed in the article don't actually support the author's argument at all. > Netflix spent $11.8bn in 2020, Disney is expecting to spend $8-9bn on Disney+ content by 2024, and Amazon is estimated to be spending $7bn this year alone. By contrast, according to the BBC’s most recent annual report, it spent about £980m ($1.3bn) on “programme-related assets and other inventories” in the 2020/21 financial year.…
BBC have done co-productions with other enterprises since before streaming and have continued to do them with Netflix.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
edit: incorrect info
You're thinking of BBC Studios, the global for-profit arm. The BBC World Service is an international multi-lingual news and discussion service. Big budget costume drama your commercial broadcaster paid $$$ for? BBC Studios. Guy speaking your language but likely from a radio studio thousands of miles away, telling you stuff that your local news media are too scared (if they exist) to broadcast? BBC World Service. Hist…
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#35When I go on I player I'm just bombarded with content about minorities other nonsense. BBC are going the same way as the Labour party they're alienating themselves from the classical British working class in favor of middle class Londoners and minoroties.
Radio 4 is about the only reasonable thing the BBC produces and even that has gone down hill dramatically.
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#36On a lighter note (which I admit reflects my personal inclinations): they should buy back live coverage of Test Match Cricket from Sky - a series of broadly unifying national sporting occasions that used to have distinctive BBC coverage (and still does on the radio of course). Good for cricket too.
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#37The numbers listed in the article don't actually support the author's argument at all. > Netflix spent $11.8bn in 2020, Disney is expecting to spend $8-9bn on Disney+ content by 2024, and Amazon is estimated to be spending $7bn this year alone. By contrast, according to the BBC’s most recent annual report, it spent about £980m ($1.3bn) on “programme-related assets and other inventories” in the 2020/21 financial year.…
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#38My kids have no concept of linear TV. My 9 year old came back and told me that a friend had a broken TV as when they turned it on, the program was already half way through. Their 'channels' are netflix, amazon and disney. When I had the choice and they were pre-school then sure, we watched things like Alphablocks on iplayer. I can force them to watch Attenborough or Blue Peter, and they enjoy it, just not enough to w…
I got such a kick out of my 7 year old at my grandparents. We turned on some random movie that was half way through and she said: "Oh, let's watch this, start it from the beginning." When I told her that's not how cable TV works, she looked at me like I was telling her some kind of stupid dad joke.
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#39My kids have no concept of linear TV. My 9 year old came back and told me that a friend had a broken TV as when they turned it on, the program was already half way through. Their 'channels' are netflix, amazon and disney. When I had the choice and they were pre-school then sure, we watched things like Alphablocks on iplayer. I can force them to watch Attenborough or Blue Peter, and they enjoy it, just not enough to w…
So my BBC content consumption has gone up over time not down.
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#40My kids have no concept of linear TV. My 9 year old came back and told me that a friend had a broken TV as when they turned it on, the program was already half way through. Their 'channels' are netflix, amazon and disney. When I had the choice and they were pre-school then sure, we watched things like Alphablocks on iplayer. I can force them to watch Attenborough or Blue Peter, and they enjoy it, just not enough to w…
However: there's nothing intrinsic to the BBC that requires linear delivery or consumption. iPlayer was, after all, one of the first streaming services: a genuine bit of innovation from the Beeb.
I dearly want to see the BBC not only survive, but to prosper.
That may be rose-tinted/delusional/whatever. Why? Because it represents a collective service for society, by society. I don't watch all the content: not even some of the big stuff (Strictly). But I really value the breadth of content: that it caters to interests - people - that are diverse. It can do that because it doesn't have to slavishly chase advertising in a race-to-the-bottom death march to mediocrity.
Similarly, its aspiration to impartial news coverage - to inform and educate, not impose a political doctrine - should be invaluable. It certainly hasn't always achieved that (and sometimes by a long way) but at least the aspiration is there. It would be greatly helped here by some structural protection from government meddling, but that's another story.
Like the original article, I see the writing on the wall. But I don't think it needs to be a death spiral. In a world of hyper-targeted-advertising-driven-sensationalist-fact-free-fake-news in 140 characters or less, I want to believe there's a market for diverse, challenging society-enhancing content. I can't think of an organisation whose charter would better fit with that aim.