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Notion Acquires Automate.io

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Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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without seeing numbers you don’t know whether it’s good or not for them, it’s possible that they get plenty of growth through these channels

At what cost? If growth means the platform cannot handle the traffic properly, you’ll loose users.

Agreed, it's definitely how they lost us.

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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If all you know is JIRA then Notion feels like a breath of fresh air. Like it's not fast, but I never really expected blinding speed since Notion pages are so dynamic. But it's also not JIRA's click on something then wait a few seconds for the UI to catch up on a many thousand dollar laptop.

People who have not used a lot of JIRA may not understand that there is "slow" and then there is "JIRA slow" when it comes to webapps.

Yes, this. We've been using JIRA, Confluence, and Bamboo and dear god does it drive me nuts how slow things are.

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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Been using Notion for over 2 years now, and unfortunately I must say I am not going to be using them moving forward. You end up with a soup of documents each with their own structure, search is terrible, creating is easy sure - but finding the right content sucks.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but after putting Notion through its paces I know this isn't it.

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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Is automate the same as IFTTT and Zapier? There are many such firms (I think). Is there a benefit to buying a particular one? I am sure they are hard to build, but could Notion just build one?

Any insight into why this particular company?

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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Seems like overkill to get the integrations into a single product. Surely, buy 25% shares and seat on the board. Make a contract that Notion integrations are advertised first and everything else is encouraged to work with it. That way automate still has a larger target market and provides a channel into Notion sales. This kills automate's growth. I wonder what the price tag was.

IMHO, in terms of integrations, Restya Core seems to have done it correctly. (disclosure: I was on their private beta)

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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Been using Notion for over 2 years now, and unfortunately I must say I am not going to be using them moving forward. You end up with a soup of documents each with their own structure, search is terrible, creating is easy sure - but finding the right content sucks. I'm not sure what the solution is, but after putting Notion through its paces I know this isn't it.

Checkout Coda.io

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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Been using Notion for over 2 years now, and unfortunately I must say I am not going to be using them moving forward. You end up with a soup of documents each with their own structure, search is terrible, creating is easy sure - but finding the right content sucks. I'm not sure what the solution is, but after putting Notion through its paces I know this isn't it.

Checkout Coda.io

If you've used both, could you compare them? Why did you like Coda better than Notion?

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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without seeing numbers you don’t know whether it’s good or not for them, it’s possible that they get plenty of growth through these channels

I think the point about performance seems relevant in my experience. This is a problem Slite seems to be facing as well. We used both for a while and actually gave their teams a lot of feedback. They were very grateful and communicated well, but moved very slowly and performance decreased quite a bit over time. We ended up focusing most of our planning/note taking/scheduling efforts in Linear instead. Much, much diff…

Honestly I think this is because Notion, Slite are mostly frontend apps at the core. And thus attract talents who are strong in frontend, and the culture is biased toward front end (actually in Notion it is even biased toward UI). And thus they neglect backend due to their culture which leads to performance issues.

I agree that you can't do Notion in a weekend, I have been working on something similar and it took me 8 months full time to have something that starts to look ok.

But that's also why I'm not bearish on having good performance in that kind of app. Notion made very dubious choices regarding their data model which explains why it is slow. Slite did not, but I thought that Slite had better performance though

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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If any Notion manager is reading this: Please stop spending endless dollars on youtube stars and affiliate marketing. Almost every Youtube star that has a channel on productivity (Thomas Frank, Ali Abdaal and a dozen others) makes paid videos about Notion. By doing that you don't get organic growth, and obviously your platform cannot handle all the new users. Whenever I try to link a page to another by hitting `@` si…

I switched from the Electron app to using Notion through the browser and things are much faster for me.

Re: Notion Acquires Automate.io

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I didn’t realize how much Stockholm Syndrome I had with Confluence until we switched to using Notion for our game design documents. It’s fast and responsive, which somehow in 2021 Atlassian still hasn’t figured out how to replicate with any of their products.

I find it brutally slow. At first I was a big fan but over time I've mostly stopped using it because I just couldn't stand how slow it is (using it in browser on a laptop).

I hang on in the hopes they will address the problem.

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