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Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by int_19h »

Forbo wrote: post #290
int_19h wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the content on any such platform is going to be the kind that was banned from mainstream platforms for whatever reason. But it's not just alt-right agitprop that gets banned. And any individual targeted group is not large enough to maintain a viable platform of their own. So either we have a public platform place with the stink, or we have none at all.

I think the complaint isn't that the content exists there, but rather that it makes up the vast majority of what is found there. If the majority of Netflix content is trash that I wouldn't want to watch, why would I continue using Netflix? I think the big issue here is that there hasn't been a need for opposing content to be published on the platform, and until there is it will remain slanted one way. This in and of…

You might continue to watch Netflix because the shows you do like are exclusively available there, and just ignore the rest of the library.

It's not that there hasn't been a need for other stuff to be published - it's that there hasn't been a proportional need. Which is exactly what I meant: any alternatives to established platforms are going to have the preponderance of content banished from those established platforms, in direct proportion. So if the purges on e.g. YouTube mostly target right-wing extremism, but also target some other content, then that's the distribution you're going to see on alternative platforms. But what other choice do you have, if you're interested in that other content?

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Post by iforgotpassword »

vorpalhex wrote: post #104
enriquto wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ultra-famous accounts with zillions of subscribers are likely on a first-name basis with the youtube admins who cater to them. The move out of the platform will of course start from below.

Markiplier, one of those ultra famous accounts who is on a first name basis with their rep, has posted a few stories about how content gets demonitized for no reason and even his rep has no clue why and is powerless.

And still there is nothing else that gets him close in reach and monetization. Even if only one out of ten videos is monetized that's most likely still better than anything else.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by tablespoon »

BizarroLand wrote: post #279
tick_tock_tick wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go and actually read Popper and you'll find he was close to a free speak maximalist his views on when you shouldn't "tolerate" intolerance was an incredibly high bar that almost nothing ever hits.

So, I should read 25 books to verify that your one sentence claim is valid? Why not back that up with some relevant quotes to support your thesis, friend? That seems a decent thing to do compared to the litany of homework you callously threw at me.

>> Go and actually read Popper and you'll find he was close to a free speak maximalist his views on when you shouldn't "tolerate" intolerance was an incredibly high bar that almost nothing ever hits.

> So, I should read 25 books to verify that your one sentence claim is valid?

> Why not back that up with some relevant quotes to support your thesis, friend? That seems a decent thing to do compared to the litany of homework you callously threw at me.

Your snark isn't warranted. The Wiki article you yourself cited says where Popper introduced the concept and even speaks about what his limitations were.

I will let you read that again to find them, rather than providing a quote.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by int_19h »

hojjat12000 wrote: post #268
int_19h wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news—things which on their own merits would get the big headlines—being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mentio…

At the bottom of that page it says: "Proposed preface to Animal Farm, first published in the Times Literary Supplement on 15 September 1972 with an introduction by Sir Bernard Crick. Ian Angus found the original manuscript in 1972." So, I don't think this was written during WWII.

Animal Farm itself was written in 1943-44.

The essay I linked to was written in 1945 - if you read it, it actually talks about the ongoing war etc, e.g.:

"... we are allies with the USSR in a war which I want to see won"

It wasn't published until 1972, for exactly the reasons Orwell outlines in it. Indeed, publishing Animal Farm itself was hard enough - many American and British publishers refused to do so, on the ground that the book clearly satirizes the USSR, which was then a war ally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm#Preface

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Post by iforgotpassword »

pwdisswordfish8 wrote: post #187
0xffff2 wrote: post #105

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YouTube provides content curation in addition to mere video hosting. In the current state, I can open up my YouTube subscriptions page and see a list of all new videos from people I'm interested in. If every video creator hosts their work on a different platform, I no longer have a one stop shop for video consumption. I subscribe to lots of people on YouTube, but there are probably only two or three that I care enoug…

The situation you just described does not match YouTube's value being in that it "provides content curation". The situation you described involves you doing the curation, and YouTube acting as a glorified RSS reader. If you can subscribe to channels on YouTube and be satisfied with that content (and not from e.g. YouTube's recommendations for stuff you don't subscribe to), then you can do those same things whether th…

Is that something an average teen with an iPhone can do, or wants to do? And apart from the subscription feed, there's recommendations based on the videos you already watched. If creators were distributed across different platforms, this wouldn't work.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by fouc »

nabakin wrote: post #293

Channel has been reinstated! https://twitter.com/thelinuxEXP/status/1435311971973406726 I want to know what happened for Google to make such a serious mistake.

That twitter link didn't work for me.

Can confirm it's back: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheLinuxExperiment

Seems glitchy though, I can't sort by "most popular", it suddenly says "this channel has no videos". Hopefully that's just an old cached result that will clear up at some point.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by e40 »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #287
hapless wrote: post #114

It appears to have been banned when the author offered an illegal sweepstakes. Contests and sweepstakes are carefully regulated in America, with slightly different regimes in all 50 states. You should not run one unless you have gotten legal help with it!

The error message claims that an account has not existed or has been deleted long ago, not "you violated our ToS and are permabanned no appeals kthxbye". Assuming this recovery attempt was started within whatever Google considers that short time, it implies something else is happening. One possible guess would be the account getting hacked, somehow moved to a different address, then deleted. (I have no idea how prima…

This is what happened to Jim Browning (YT channel about scammers... very entertaining). He was tricked into it.

https://youtu.be/YIWV5fSaUB8

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Post by int_19h »

drcongo wrote: post #208
int_19h wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It gets filled with all kinds of content, of which racism and other far-right talk is merely the most visible part because it's in the spotlight. But it's not just far right that's getting "deplatformed". Even politically, there are plenty of leftist groups that were wiped out from e.g. Facebook during the recent purges. All those people also have to look for other platforms.

I'm not saying there aren't other valid uses, just that racism is pretty much guaranteed on a no-censorship site. It _should_ be something that we can all agree on as being "bad", even when dressed in its Sunday best from the likes of Jordan Peterson.

We can agree on it being bad, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we have to censor it, and especially so when such censorship has an already-demonstrated tendency to quickly expand in scope.

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Post by jvdheuvel »

morganvachon wrote: post #192
dan1234 wrote: post #174

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It's the video/consumer frontend to LBRY, a decentralised/p2p/blockchain based publishing platform. I hope it can achieve a critical mass because it does look interesting, but I don't hear many people talking about it - even in tech circles. https://lbry.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY

I just scrolled through their main feed and every other video was some kind of alt-right misinformation rant (COVID is fake, Joe Biden is dead/dying/has dementia, Antifa is killing kids, etc.). Just based on that alone I want no part of it.

There is plenty of content on Odysee that is not alt-right of alt-left. https://odysee.com/@aantonop:8 (talks a lot about crypto) https://odysee.com/@HackerSploit:26 (cybersecurity) https://odysee.com/@NaomiBrockwell:4 (all kinds of it stuff) etc. etc. put a word in the search bar and see what you get

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by fouc »

mcjiggerlog wrote: post #17

The Linux Experiment is probably my favourite linux-focussed YouTube channel. Nick has been doing absolutely fantastic work and his channel being permanently deleted would be an absolute travesty and a clear mistake. He is producing high quality, thoughtful, inoffensive content. Here's to hoping the channel is rightly reinstated ASAP, along with an apology and explanation from Google. Also, if you don't know the chan…

Seems like odysee doesn't have captioning. Looks amazing but no captioning is a deal killer.
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