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Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by burnished »

corobo wrote: post #48
fragileone wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a peer-to-peer video client, with part of it's data being directly shared (similarly to torrents) and part via a blockchain. This makes it highly resistant to censorship and thus is where many people are moving their channels to.

> This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"

I see you are getting a lot of pushback and I think its unwarranted. I agree with you, the phrase is becoming tainted. I would like a way to differentiate between places that are wary of the whims of power and places where opinions are so appalling they can't be a part of polite society. We currently talk about them the same, and there has been an uptick of the latter recently that makes being able to differentiate more relevant.

As a side note its sort of interesting to me how your un-popular, perhaps controversial yet not particularly offensive opinion is going to be censored from this discussion in which people are opposing your perhaps reasonable association with the phrase 'resistant to censorship'. "how dare they voice a dissenting opinion!" they might tell themselves, as they press the little button that will make your words fade away.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by r3dey3 »

reasonabl_human wrote: post #141
cube00 wrote: post #57

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:s/YouTube/Google

Usually I have to type :%s, and a trailing /g, you can omit those?

without % it only does the change on the current line; and /g means change all occurrences instead of first (per line)

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by afroboy »

corobo wrote: post #48
fragileone wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a peer-to-peer video client, with part of it's data being directly shared (similarly to torrents) and part via a blockchain. This makes it highly resistant to censorship and thus is where many people are moving their channels to.

> This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"

You can always downvote.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by vorpalhex »

slightwinder wrote: post #140
vorpalhex wrote: post #111

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Remember when posting the lab leak hypothesis on Facebook would get you banned and now it's, as best as we can figure, the most plausible theory? There is no human run group fit to decide what is or is not "disinformation".

To be fair, the bans usually were about china fabricating the virus on purpose and releasing it with intention, accompanied by racism against Asians. This is pretty different from the accidental leak of a research-object, which is now the accepted theory.

The media did themselves and the public a disservice by gluing the two theories together and blending them. Several friends - college educated, intelligent professionals - were confused enough to approach and ask me about the lab leak/release theories.

The intentional lab release theory is the stuff of nonsense conspiracy theories. The accidental leak theory has always had some support but is now more widely accepted (but will likely never have hard proof).

For a time, both were bannable offenses on Facebook, Youtube and others. Likely because the media glued them together and assigned them both as "disinformation".

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by OldTimeCoffee »

vorpalhex wrote: post #108
onei wrote: post #77

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There's a difference between trials and it being suitable for public use though, right? It is undeniably a horse dewormer, and has had some use on humans, but not as a covid treatment. For me, it's about preventing people that aren't medical professionals from self-medicating with a potentially harmful substance. Plus there's been some less than stellar suggestions of covid treatments in the past ranging from dubious…

Calling ivermectin horse dewormer is like calling penicillin cow antibiotics or fish tank saver. It's in significant use in humans.

It's in significant use in humans as a dewormer, though. It's used in humans to treat river blindness which is caused by a worm. It's also used for the prevention of worms in dogs. It's fair to call it a dewormer, even if you disagree with including the 'horse' part.

It's not an anti-viral in any sense of the word.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by trasz »

axelroze wrote: post #59
selfhoster11 wrote: post #14

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Is nationalisation evil in itself? The private sector just doesn't have sufficient incentive to serve the public over their own interest. We've seen this time and time again.

> Is nationalisation evil in itself? Oh very much it is. Come to the lovely Eastern Europe and see for yourself how good national owned companies are. Full of useless bureaucrats put there to ensure voters so the ruling party can continue ruling. Also in huge debts which are paid by more taxes so the working people pay for the lazy. Unless the human race somehow chains itself to selflessness, nationalization + democr…

On the other hand, outside the Eastern Europe many of the state-owned corporations work pretty well, and usually the service goes down the drain after selling them off - see UK railways.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by vorpalhex »

OldTimeCoffee wrote: post #155
vorpalhex wrote: post #108

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Calling ivermectin horse dewormer is like calling penicillin cow antibiotics or fish tank saver. It's in significant use in humans.

It's in significant use in humans as a dewormer, though. It's used in humans to treat river blindness which is caused by a worm. It's also used for the prevention of worms in dogs. It's fair to call it a dewormer, even if you disagree with including the 'horse' part. It's not an anti-viral in any sense of the word.

Correct, and while it's use as an anti-viral has been noted pre-covid we don't understand what it's method of action is, or why it sometimes behaves as an anti-viral.

I'm not recommending using drugs we don't understand or have a full picture of. I am recommending to stop calling it horse dewormer. At the very least call it an anti-parasitic in use in the 3rd and 2nd worlds.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by [deleted] »

OneEyedRobot wrote: post #113
tedivm wrote: post #93

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Most of these platforms start off trying to be content neutral and end up adding more moderation as a result of how badly it ends up hurting them. There's only so many times advertisers are willing to have their brand shown next to child pornography (ie, reddit's former /r/jailbait) or hate speech. If complete neutrality was an answer these companies would be doing that, since it's the cheapest option.

It seems to me that content neutral (neutrality? neutralness?) and copyright violations are there in order to build eyeballs and brand. You use them for growth. Once the size is there, you curate. Profit becomes the issue and the tendency is to simply become cable TV with thousands of channels. I wonder how you could architect video access for content that gets peoples' knickers in a twist but is still legal. There's…

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Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by concordDance »

mschuster91 wrote: post #148
caeril wrote: post #118

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> either accept some form of content neutrality or become a petty and chaotic tyrant constantly reeling from one public backlash after the other No, there is a middle ground that Google, with its army of engineers, could implement in a weekend: 1. You stop trying to assume you know what advertisers want their ads to be displayed on. 2. You implement a basic, fixed (but can be expanded) ACL-type system based on catego…

> 2. You implement a basic, fixed (but can be expanded) ACL-type system based on categories such as "hacking content", "politically sketchy content", "sexual content", etc. The problem: for some of these, the definitions, the legality status and the liabilities (especially around "politically sketchy" stuff) may differ wildly between jurisdictions. And you will always have trolls mis-labeling their content on purpose…

Why Western allied nations in particular? I'm also not sure that list is as universal as you think. For instance, the no drugs thing would likely not apply to the Netherlands.
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