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Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by sprafa »

onei wrote: post #77
sprafa wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The current “ivermectin is a dangerous horse dewormer” debacle has been the biggest example of a moment where I’m not sure whether everyone is lying at this point. YouTube censored a few videos with actual experts and doctors who were discussing ivm. Yes we had issues with HCQ in the beginning, but ivm is being actually studied right now by Oxford Uni/NHS in their big covid trials in the UK… it’s amazing what a hit j…

There's a difference between trials and it being suitable for public use though, right? It is undeniably a horse dewormer, and has had some use on humans, but not as a covid treatment. For me, it's about preventing people that aren't medical professionals from self-medicating with a potentially harmful substance. Plus there's been some less than stellar suggestions of covid treatments in the past ranging from dubious…

I would hope so.

My point about “horse dewormer” is that some articles in the media list it as just that without mentioning at all that it is also human medication. Look at the recent articles about Joe Rogan, they couldn’t stop themselves.

Afaik the only difference between human and animal ivm are levels of impurity.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by intpx »

christophilus wrote: post #71
corobo wrote: post #48

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> This makes it highly resistant to censorship We should probably stop using this phrase as a feature Instant thought was "ok so other than this channel it's all racism"

> ok so other than this channel it's all racism It's sad that that was your instant thought. My experience so far with Odysee has been pretty good. It's no YouTube, but for the channels I follow, it's good enough. I hope it continues to to build momentum.

the only thing sad is that its the reality of the situation. Tor started off with some pretty pie in the sky ideals and now over half of its active use is for illegal activity. Tech censorship doesn't even register on the scales of stuff that is de-platformed from social networking platforms.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by ggrrhh_ta »

Most people do not give a second thought to employees having a minimum set of rights and obligations even if they work for a private company.

I think it is not difficult to consider any contributor in a (virtual) Commons to be subject not only to obligations but also to a set of rights.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by vorpalhex »

enriquto wrote: post #49
Uehreka wrote: post #42

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If there was a clear alternative that’d be one thing, but there isn’t, and I suspect this creator is one of those high-quality-but-small-audience channels where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative themselves. So it seems kind of naive to say “that can only be a good thing”.

Ultra-famous accounts with zillions of subscribers are likely on a first-name basis with the youtube admins who cater to them. The move out of the platform will of course start from below.

Markiplier, one of those ultra famous accounts who is on a first name basis with their rep, has posted a few stories about how content gets demonitized for no reason and even his rep has no clue why and is powerless.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by 0xffff2 »

betwixthewires wrote: post #89
Uehreka wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there was a clear alternative that’d be one thing, but there isn’t, and I suspect this creator is one of those high-quality-but-small-audience channels where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative themselves. So it seems kind of naive to say “that can only be a good thing”.

Does there need to be "a clear alternative?" A video host is a video host. I don't care where I watch videos, I only care about what I'm trying to watch. I never understood this insistence that a video has to be on a certain site. The more video hosting sites there are the better.

YouTube provides content curation in addition to mere video hosting. In the current state, I can open up my YouTube subscriptions page and see a list of all new videos from people I'm interested in. If every video creator hosts their work on a different platform, I no longer have a one stop shop for video consumption. I subscribe to lots of people on YouTube, but there are probably only two or three that I care enough about to go check a different site for new content.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by martin_a »

betwixthewires wrote: post #92
martin_a wrote: post #70

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> where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative Maybe I'm thinking too easy, but what about self-hosting. Some "all inclusive" hosting with Hugo or whatever static page builder you like. That should be enough to get your content out to the masses. Throw in Disqus if you really need to, set up an RSS feed and a newsletter and let's go.

For video hosting I'd go with Peertube.

No!

These networks, no matter how they work under the hood, are obviously the problem, as they are single points of failure.

Run your own stuff. Most channels will not have enough visitors/viewers to kill a shared webhosting package, so there's no big deal in doing this on your own.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by vorpalhex »

onei wrote: post #77
sprafa wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The current “ivermectin is a dangerous horse dewormer” debacle has been the biggest example of a moment where I’m not sure whether everyone is lying at this point. YouTube censored a few videos with actual experts and doctors who were discussing ivm. Yes we had issues with HCQ in the beginning, but ivm is being actually studied right now by Oxford Uni/NHS in their big covid trials in the UK… it’s amazing what a hit j…

There's a difference between trials and it being suitable for public use though, right? It is undeniably a horse dewormer, and has had some use on humans, but not as a covid treatment. For me, it's about preventing people that aren't medical professionals from self-medicating with a potentially harmful substance. Plus there's been some less than stellar suggestions of covid treatments in the past ranging from dubious…

Calling ivermectin horse dewormer is like calling penicillin cow antibiotics or fish tank saver.

It's in significant use in humans.

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by throwawaysea »

tedivm wrote: post #93
RegnisGnaw wrote: post #88

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The choice of "content neutrality" is pretty much keyword also for: 1. constantly reeling from one public backlash after the other 2. advertising dropping you due to controversial content 3. government coming after you for controversial content If I were a business, I'd go content moderation all the way. Less blow black and more steady income.

Most of these platforms start off trying to be content neutral and end up adding more moderation as a result of how badly it ends up hurting them. There's only so many times advertisers are willing to have their brand shown next to child pornography (ie, reddit's former /r/jailbait) or hate speech. If complete neutrality was an answer these companies would be doing that, since it's the cheapest option.

> There's only so many times advertisers are willing to have their brand shown next to child pornography (ie, reddit's former /r/jailbait) or hate speech.

I’m not sure advertisers care about this as much as people claim. YouTube’s censorship really ramped up in 2017 after Trump was elected, and was fairly limited before then. I don’t think they had trouble with advertisers before then all those years. I could be wrong - have any sources that could help?

Re: The Linux Experiments YouTube channel has been terminated

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Post by oblio »

martin_a wrote: post #70
Uehreka wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there was a clear alternative that’d be one thing, but there isn’t, and I suspect this creator is one of those high-quality-but-small-audience channels where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative themselves. So it seems kind of naive to say “that can only be a good thing”.

> where they don’t have enough pull to bootstrap an alternative Maybe I'm thinking too easy, but what about self-hosting. Some "all inclusive" hosting with Hugo or whatever static page builder you like. That should be enough to get your content out to the masses. Throw in Disqus if you really need to, set up an RSS feed and a newsletter and let's go.

Congratulations! You've solved the easiest part.

Now get back to us in 5 years, when you'll have managed to build a comparable audience just by using SEO.

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