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Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
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Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#342Earlier quoted context omitted.
From my understanding it depends on how naughty your current exit node has been. Most tor exits in my experience allow creation and you just need to verify another email (just use a random burner- they only block a few. Supposedly some well behaved exits require just a captcha but I've never seen it.
It would be nice if they had a tor presence so there would be no need to traverse an exit node. A lot of other privacy-forward sites do exactly this.
They do https://protonmail.com/tor
Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#343Disclaimer: Paying Protonmail customer Their homepage says "By default, we do not keep any IP logs" In 2021, any soft language like this should be a red flag for anyone who is against surveillance. Maybe in 2018 it was good enough. But in 2021 it's not. Come on, Protonmail, you're supposed to be leading the way -- don't make me figure it out myself. Replace immediately with "By default we don't log IP, but may be req…
I was a paying customer. I just cancelled.
I can't understand what just happened. I truly believed it's all save and secure.
Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#344So what exactly did the activists do which required an interpol notice?
Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#345Disclaimer: Paying Protonmail customer Their homepage says "By default, we do not keep any IP logs" In 2021, any soft language like this should be a red flag for anyone who is against surveillance. Maybe in 2018 it was good enough. But in 2021 it's not. Come on, Protonmail, you're supposed to be leading the way -- don't make me figure it out myself. Replace immediately with "By default we don't log IP, but may be req…
All the Protonmail customers out there, what did you do about this? For starters, I emailed Protonmail support. Here's mine: Hi, Your homepage reads "By default, we do not keep any IP logs..." This language is soft and misleading. Maybe in 2018 when I first began using ProtonMail it was good enough. But in 2021 it's not. I expect better from ProtonMail. Replace immediately with something clearer. "By default we don't…
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Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#346Anyone up for creating a competing service? We could host the service in a country with proper privacy laws like Iceland.
Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#347for those who are curious, this seems to be the reply from protonmail on reddit[0] >Hi everyone, Proton team here. We are also deeply concerned about this case. In the interest of transparency, here's some more context. In this case, Proton received a legally binding order from the Swiss Federal Department of Justice which we are obligated to comply with. Details about how we handle Swiss law enforcement requests can…
All they could?
Maybe not having the IP address in the first place like they advertise was that was needed.
Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#348Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s not protection FROM your customers. It is protection FOR your customers. Most customers are not technically astute
A corporation is a power centralization, and government authority can lean on power centralization. In general, regardless of what their TOS say, never believe that a corporation can't be compelled by the law to do anything they could physically do. CEOs can be jailed; when's the last time we heard of one actually going to jail over user privacy?
> CEOs can be jailed; when's the last time we heard of one actually going to jail, period.
Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#349Earlier quoted context omitted.
The scanning of email contents that Gmail does is, from a privacy standpoint, indistinguishable from them simply sending you the email. Their server has to know the contents of that email either way.
>The scanning of email contents that Gmail does is, from a privacy standpoint, indistinguishable from them simply sending you the email The privacy violation of creating a profile on me based on my mail to tailor ads is not the same thing as simply delivering mail.
That's the price of a free service. It's always been the gmail MO. Do you want to get something for nothing at all?
Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address
#350So what exactly did the activists do which required an interpol notice?
I was wondering the same, it's in the twitter thread, they apparently just squatted in protest:
> "Where can I read more about this? What was the alleged crime?"
>> "Organizing a climate camp. Some links (in French)..."
So either something else is missing, or investigations are biasedly heavy handed on these cases?