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Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #18

So with FastMail under Australian privacy-bashing laws and now this, what are our options for secure, private e-mail?

Protonmail and fastmail are different offerings. Proton offers encryption features, while fastmail makes no effort to promote encryption.

So tutanota would be a good alternative to protonmail. And mailbox.org is a good alternative to fastmail. Both are based in Germany.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They claim that they don’t keep logs on their French homepage. The climate activist is French: https://twitter.com/onestlatech/status/1434596410977030155?s... And even on their English website, the marketing is misleading. They say that the service is "anonymous" and also: "By default, we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account".

The CEO's position on Twitter is that "by default" (from the sentence you're quoting) means when there is no criminal investigation, but when there is a legal order in place, Protonmail will collect the IP... https://twitter.com/andyyen/status/1434600373059297284 "As described in the link above, under Swiss law, we can be forced to collect info on accounts belonging to users under criminal investigation. This is obvi…

"obviously"?

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They never advertised that they don’t keep logs they just said they aren’t permanent, in fact you can view your own connection logs if you enable it in which case they are maintained forever. https://protonmail.com/privacy-policy They also provide a report of all warrants received https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/

Literally on their front page: > No personal information is required to create your secure email account. By default, we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account. Your privacy comes first.

Privacy comes first. Then comes the warrant. Then comes the IP in the report printout.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Protonmail customer here. Sigh. This is why I keep my own domain and can point it wherever I need. Dear Protonmail, email is fucking cheap and easy, I pay you $58 a year to solve stupid shit like this.

Vendors really need to figure out how to thread the needle of "No don't trust us" but still encourage customers to buy. Protonmail failed here. Apple's still very much in the "trust no one but us!" vibe, and it's just not sustainable.

I'll be switching my Protonmail use to default to Tor now. Open to Tor-first vendors...are there any?

I like how Brave has "open in Tor" displayed on Tor-mirrored sites. There's even an option for "Automatically redirect .onion" sites too. Makes it easy to switch over.

What if Protonmail pushed their Tor services more? "Guide to using Protonmail as privately as possible", have a switch for "Private Mode" that kicks you over to Tor/download Tor.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

#28
post #18

So with FastMail under Australian privacy-bashing laws and now this, what are our options for secure, private e-mail?

If you're doing subversive activities against a Western country you should probably use some Russian or Chinese state-owned service.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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I guess there isn’t much Protonmail can do if the prosecutor shows up with an ~Interpol~ Europol warrant.

I wonder what this “activist” did to earn himself Europol attention. At least before the world went insane, that would only happen for serious crimes.

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