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Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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Has ProtonMail done anything wrong themselves, or is this just a case of them existing in the wrong country? If they refused to cooperate, could the government have just seized their servers and collected the data they wanted themselves?

I think the argument is that their advertising is misleading (i.e. if they really didn't keep logs, there would be nothing to hand over)

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #3

Has ProtonMail done anything wrong themselves, or is this just a case of them existing in the wrong country? If they refused to cooperate, could the government have just seized their servers and collected the data they wanted themselves?

I think the argument is that their advertising is misleading (i.e. if they really didn't keep logs, there would be nothing to hand over)

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Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #3

Has ProtonMail done anything wrong themselves, or is this just a case of them existing in the wrong country? If they refused to cooperate, could the government have just seized their servers and collected the data they wanted themselves?

I think the argument is that their advertising is misleading (i.e. if they really didn't keep logs, there would be nothing to hand over)

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Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #3

Has ProtonMail done anything wrong themselves, or is this just a case of them existing in the wrong country? If they refused to cooperate, could the government have just seized their servers and collected the data they wanted themselves?

I think the argument is that their advertising is misleading (i.e. if they really didn't keep logs, there would be nothing to hand over)

They never advertised that they don’t keep logs they just said they aren’t permanent, in fact you can view your own connection logs if you enable it in which case they are maintained forever.

https://protonmail.com/privacy-policy

They also provide a report of all warrants received https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the argument is that their advertising is misleading (i.e. if they really didn't keep logs, there would be nothing to hand over)

They never advertised that they don’t keep logs they just said they aren’t permanent, in fact you can view your own connection logs if you enable it in which case they are maintained forever. https://protonmail.com/privacy-policy They also provide a report of all warrants received https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/

That begs the question which of the warrants listed there relates to this climate activist.

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the argument is that their advertising is misleading (i.e. if they really didn't keep logs, there would be nothing to hand over)

They never advertised that they don’t keep logs they just said they aren’t permanent, in fact you can view your own connection logs if you enable it in which case they are maintained forever. https://protonmail.com/privacy-policy They also provide a report of all warrants received https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/

They claim that they don’t keep logs on their French homepage. The climate activist is French: https://twitter.com/onestlatech/status/1434596410977030155?s...

And even on their English website, the marketing is misleading. They say that the service is "anonymous" and also: "By default, we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account".

Re: Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the argument is that their advertising is misleading (i.e. if they really didn't keep logs, there would be nothing to hand over)

They never advertised that they don’t keep logs they just said they aren’t permanent, in fact you can view your own connection logs if you enable it in which case they are maintained forever. https://protonmail.com/privacy-policy They also provide a report of all warrants received https://protonmail.com/blog/transparency-report/

Literally on their front page:

> No personal information is required to create your secure email account. By default, we do not keep any IP logs which can be linked to your anonymous email account. Your privacy comes first.

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