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Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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> I'm actually not against Firefox either, but they refuse to implement a profile switcher https://davemartorana.com/multifirefox/

Alternatively, Profile Switcher for Firefox provides a Chrome-like interface: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switc...

I couldn't tell from the link, but does it let me run two profiles side by side?

This is the only thing that makes FF awkward for me when not using a Mac.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Not so smart of Google. Ninety nine percent of their users won't use them and the ones that do are likely to be programmers. Maybe their own people. They have an outsize influence on what gets used and more importantly what gets supported. And that may mean a boost for the competition

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Not trying to defend anyone here, but I wonder if there's a non-nefarious reason for this. Specifically, there have been a lot of changes to cookies lately because malicious actors (malware/adware) figured out how to access the cookie store and infer/determine cookie information from other sites. I suspect that maybe this cookie store is kept in a more secure part of the application and only the cookies relevant to t…

> Not trying to defend anyone here, but I wonder if there's a non-nefarious reason for this. The tools are designed for developers who often want to manually edit cookies on pages they are debugging.

I recently had to develop a feature that would have been much easier to develop and debug had I been able to view the contents of Local Storage and Session Storage before loading the site.

A particular feature of a web application (shopping cart) had different behaviour depending if the page was loaded as "an initial pageview on revisit", e.g. the user coming from [search engine|other link|bookmark|url bar] or from normal site browsing. By storing data in both Local Storage and Session Storage, and comparing the two on page load, I could determine if the user, who had been to the site in the past, had just come back. This all had to be developed in the dark as the major browsers have no method of viewing Local Storage and Session Storage for websites not loaded.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Don't understand the downvotes, but brave search is a pretty decent product so far. Competition is always good, especially in the area of search.

The founder of Brave was canceled by the left for his religious opposition to calling gay unions "marriage". FWIW, I voted to call it that in my state, but I have no problem with someone holding a different opinion. That's sorta how democracy works. People get to have different opinions and then duke it out by voting. The authoritarian left can't have that, you must prostrate yourself before the one true dogma comple…

Any mention of Eich gets downvoted to hell, it's part of the "cancelling".

Parent is 100% correct.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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post #269

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Don't understand the downvotes, but brave search is a pretty decent product so far. Competition is always good, especially in the area of search.

The founder of Brave was canceled by the left for his religious opposition to calling gay unions "marriage". FWIW, I voted to call it that in my state, but I have no problem with someone holding a different opinion. That's sorta how democracy works. People get to have different opinions and then duke it out by voting. The authoritarian left can't have that, you must prostrate yourself before the one true dogma comple…

> The founder of Brave was canceled by the left for his religious opposition to calling gay unions “marriage”.

Insofar as he was opposed by “the Left”, it was for his political actions in opposition to equal rights. The religious basis of that action was probably important to Eich, but it was immaterial to the opposition.

> FWIW, I voted to call it that in my state, but I have no problem with someone holding a different opinion.

Good for you.

> That’s sorta how democracy works.

In a liberal (in the classical, Enlightment-derived sense, not either of the narrower senses it is used for factional positions within the US political system) democracy, you are absolutely permitted to have a problem with, and (peacably) take action based on such a problem, with unwelcome political actions, including actual or threatened refusal to participate in economic exchanges with the perpetrator.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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post #261

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1. should be trivial to avoid, by opening dev tools in a new window but 2. I have no idea, except the browser vendors would add a "stealth dev mode"

2. JSON.stringify(object)

But isn't the point that you want to detect what the foreign code does?

So your solution would require inject your code into the code that wants to hide from you ... ?

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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The issue here is that "making a web browser" isn't a sustainable business. You could force Google to spin off Chrome...and then what? The new "Chrome Inc." would probably need to either start integrating ads or start charging money to even have a chance at not immediately going under. The only reason Firefox is even able to exist is Google propping them up with lots of extra money.

It's not sustainable because Google props up its browser with money from other sources. I used to pay for a browser (Omniweb, that I still yearn for) because it was worth it. Most software is worth paying for, strangely.

If people won't pay for Windows, good luck getting them to pay for Chrome or Safari.
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