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Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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I'm privacy conscious but would not consider looking at such detailed information. For me it's delete all site state on exit. Do people actually look at this stuff?

Anecdata point - I had trouble logging into a site recently and was able to solve the problem by clearing cookies just for that site, thus preserving my other stored logins.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Why Safari? The only sane choice is Firefox.

> Why Safari? The only sane choice is Firefox. I use Safari because of keychain and continuity. For example my Mac Mini can autofill 2FA tokens sent to my phone. I use Firefox for web development and for sites I don’t trust and don’t want tracking me. I only use Chrome for Gmail and YouTube.

Is there any other reason then in case of using a mac OS?

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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They also run the only decent, independent search engine that has _its own_, _uncensored_ index. DDG was perceptibly worse than Google, but Brave Search is about on par, and the latency seems to be better as well. I maybe have to go to Google once or twice a month now instead of several times a day DDG would require. I know a bit about Google search, and frankly I'm stunned by what Brave was able to pull off here. I'…

Don't understand the downvotes, but brave search is a pretty decent product so far. Competition is always good, especially in the area of search.

I've just tried brave search and it does seem to be a good product actually - my only concern with all these providers is what is the monetisation strategy will be (Brave has called out ads, but it's not in their product at the moment). Looking at Brave's monetisation strategy for their browser it seems pretty shady (effectively steal the revenue from site owners for referral links and replace the websites ads with their own ads). They haven't tried monetising search yet so - Brave if you are reading this - please please please choose a different monetisation strategy and use the opportunity to be different to Google!

I would love a company like DuckDuckGo or Brave to offer a paid tier where I can just subscribe to an ad-free search engine (I would love Google to offer a 'Google Premium' with this, but let's be real that's not happening!).

i.e. If you are competing with Google by releasing a free search engine with Ads, you have to provide better search results with Ads mixed in than Google which will be tough. If you found a monetisation strategy that didn't involve Ads, theoretically it should be easier to offer a better quality search result and better quality product than Google (because you are actually focussing on delivering the best quality results rather than the right mix of good-results and Ads to optimise revenue).

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Don't understand the downvotes, but brave search is a pretty decent product so far. Competition is always good, especially in the area of search.

I've just tried brave search and it does seem to be a good product actually - my only concern with all these providers is what is the monetisation strategy will be (Brave has called out ads, but it's not in their product at the moment). Looking at Brave's monetisation strategy for their browser it seems pretty shady (effectively steal the revenue from site owners for referral links and replace the websites ads with t…

So would I. I'd gladly and voluntarily pay, say, $10/mo for a family subscription, paid with crypto. I'm not sure why they aren't offering that.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Firefox Nightly is a pretty good browser imho Also it just so happens that there are extensions that allow you detailed (read: raw and editable) cookie data for each website you visit!

Minus the routine kernel panics it's causing on my M1. Or is that defective hardware?

How can you blame a kernel panic on an unprivileged userspace program? That doesn't make sense. I.e., Firefox can maybe trigger a kernel panic, but the blame lies either with the kernel or, indeed, with defective hardware.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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That would be an atrocious bit of engineering from the developer. But I suspect that even in that case, holding Escape as you load the page would kill the redirect.

Not who you were responding to, but I've had that happen on Microsoft flows. Manually interrupting most flows is practically impossible. Too fast, and can chain across a half dozen (sub)domains near instantly. The web hasn't been that slow or simple in a long time.

> I've had that happen on Microsoft flows.

Yes, as mentioned, from atrocious engineering.

See also that Windows can break the desktop due to their own advert.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Why Safari? The only sane choice is Firefox.

> Why Safari? The only sane choice is Firefox. I use Safari because of keychain and continuity. For example my Mac Mini can autofill 2FA tokens sent to my phone. I use Firefox for web development and for sites I don’t trust and don’t want tracking me. I only use Chrome for Gmail and YouTube.

I use Firefox mobile because it provides the best YouTube experience.

Adblocking, background playback.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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They also run the only decent, independent search engine that has _its own_, _uncensored_ index. DDG was perceptibly worse than Google, but Brave Search is about on par, and the latency seems to be better as well. I maybe have to go to Google once or twice a month now instead of several times a day DDG would require. I know a bit about Google search, and frankly I'm stunned by what Brave was able to pull off here. I'…

> I'm actually not against Firefox either, but they refuse to implement a profile switcher https://davemartorana.com/multifirefox/

Multi-firefox is great, but is unfortunately Mac only.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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How many users are there who want to delete some but not all cookies for a site, yet aren't able to use the F12 developer tools to do so? I can see some users delete cookies to prevent tracking, but should those users really be deciding which cookies to keep and which to delete when nearly all cookies have very user unfriendly names and data contents? Given that, I agree with the Chrome team here. There shouldn't be…

> There shouldn't be a general-public UI to manipulate individual cookies, since making a mistake is very likely and leaks the user's private info. Power users can use the F12 tools Um, I'm pretty sure deleting a cookie or too isn't going to leak my private data. If it does, it is because some third party website defaults to doing the stupidest thing possible.

The leak is that you think you've deleted the right tracking cookie, but since the site uses 20 cookies for tracking different kinds of state you haven't.
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