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> In a bad neighborhood it's not uncommon to lose over a million dollars a year. Then the store closes, then you get a food desert.
Followed by a smug article decrying the entire situation from some smug blogger.
A friend of mine is a manager at a Safeway. He says a typical store might lose six figures worth of product in a year. In a bad neighborhood it's not uncommon to lose over a million dollars a year. They hire security personnel, but people figure out that a) even when security catches you, they are not allowed to restrain you and b) the police do not respond to shoplifters (in certain jurisdictions they are not allowe…
Why are they not allowed to restrain a shoplifter? In Germany, that's covered by the "anyone's" right: if you see someone commit a crime, you can detain/restrain them until the police arrives. Some restrictions apply, like for example having to watch the crime yourself etc but for shop security staff it's enough rights https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festnahme#Jedermann-Festnahme
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Why are they not allowed to restrain a shoplifter? In Germany, that's covered by the "anyone's" right: if you see someone commit a crime, you can detain/restrain them until the police arrives. Some restrictions apply, like for example having to watch the crime yourself etc but for shop security staff it's enough rights https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festnahme#Jedermann-Festnahme
In the US, we generally have "Shopkeeper's privilege", which lets shopkeepers detain a person reasonably suspected of shoplifting while an investigation happens. Usually that involves just calling the police, or taking their picture and telling them they're banned for life, and then letting them go.
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That was real and everyone can agree on that based on what they see as well as the data. However you can't go to a single SF neighborhood and find people that think crime has dropped recently. There are boatloads of articles about people having their cars broken into so often they leave them unlocked because replacing windows was so expensive. Videos of people shoplifting while security stands by and does nothing bec…
Maybe if the CVS/Wallgreens/etc took a different tactic. Don't let people inside. Take orders online or line outside, deliver or pick up at the door. Distribute more intelligently.
Don't let in people without a device and ban people who are caught stealing once. If they force the doors and come in call the cops and prosecute for felony burglary even if they were only originally banned for stealing socks originally.
Share bad lists and stealing socks means that you are suddenly banned from every store in 100 miles.
Make exceptions for curbside pickup and pre scheduled trips to the grocery store/pharmacy where you will pay for the security that will walk around with you.
Expire people off the list after 5 years of one theft or never after a string of thefts.
For the normal customer nothing happens your phone silently attests from your pocket that you aren't on the list by pinging a service and retrieving a token not sharing your info with the store.
Losers here an alarm sound and a voice telling them to buzz off on penalty of jail.
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Maybe if the CVS/Wallgreens/etc took a different tactic. Don't let people inside. Take orders online or line outside, deliver or pick up at the door. Distribute more intelligently.
What about only letting in people in who have phones attesting to a unique id. Don't let in people without a device and ban people who are caught stealing once. If they force the doors and come in call the cops and prosecute for felony burglary even if they were only originally banned for stealing socks originally. Share bad lists and stealing socks means that you are suddenly banned from every store in 100 miles. Ma…
If they're not going to jail for openly shoplifting, why do you think they'd go to jail for this?
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What about only letting in people in who have phones attesting to a unique id. Don't let in people without a device and ban people who are caught stealing once. If they force the doors and come in call the cops and prosecute for felony burglary even if they were only originally banned for stealing socks originally. Share bad lists and stealing socks means that you are suddenly banned from every store in 100 miles. Ma…
> Losers here an alarm sound and a voice telling them to buzz off on penalty of jail. If they're not going to jail for openly shoplifting, why do you think they'd go to jail for this?
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> Losers here an alarm sound and a voice telling them to buzz off on penalty of jail. If they're not going to jail for openly shoplifting, why do you think they'd go to jail for this?
Forcing your way into a place to commit a crime is automatically a felony in almost all states. This is true even if the planned crime would be a misdemeanor.
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You should have reported the crime, because by not reporting it, you feed the people that are enabling it. You allow them to promote the idea that their policies are actually working. Then, you're more likely to have it happen to you again.
Ever try to report a crime that the police officer doesn't want to write a report for? They will do everything in their power to not write that report, including accusing you of crimes, or gaslighting you.
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Forcing your way into a place to commit a crime is automatically a felony in almost all states. This is true even if the planned crime would be a misdemeanor.
Why does it matter whether it's a misdemeanor or a felony, if Chesa is going to drop the charge either way?
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Why does it matter whether it's a misdemeanor or a felony, if Chesa is going to drop the charge either way?
At some point the government actually has to enforce the law. There is no system that can be imagined that obviates that.