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Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by deadbunny »

jacquesm wrote: post #64

They are really on a roll there, how many user hostile moves is that in the last 30 days? I think I lost count at 4. And all in the name of 'helping our users to improve their experience'. Since when is removing features that users depend on a positive? But with the competition as good as dead they can do whatever they want: the bulk of the audience is now captive and has lost either the willpower or the means to att…

> But with the competition as good as dead they can do whatever they want

Firefox works well enough for me.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by shock-value »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #76
yellow_lead wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've looked at it before - to delete a specific cookie, or see what a website has stored. Deleting specific cookies can sometimes fix broken websites.

What's the intersection of "users who want to delete a specific cookie" and "users who cannot open Developer Tools"? For the average user, deleting all of a site's cookies seems like all the granularity you need (and will be a more effective troubleshooting tactic anyway).

Effectively zero. Ridiculous that anyone would think this an issue even worth discussing.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by jraph »

decremental wrote: post #95
jacquesm wrote: post #64

They are really on a roll there, how many user hostile moves is that in the last 30 days? I think I lost count at 4. And all in the name of 'helping our users to improve their experience'. Since when is removing features that users depend on a positive? But with the competition as good as dead they can do whatever they want: the bulk of the audience is now captive and has lost either the willpower or the means to att…

Look around you. Does it seem like doing bad things that some people have a problem with is some of kind impedes? There is always an overwhelming majority of people who don't care. That is their power. It's not going away.

> people who don't care

You cannot care if you are not aware. It is a complicated matter which looks very abstract when you haven't had a chance to look into it and think.

And then, some are aware and really don't care. But at least it is a conscious choice.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by throw_m239339 »

beerandt wrote: post #21
da_chicken wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same idiots looking ad and data mining revenue, and then seeing what their customer's demands are. Their customers being the ones who are buying services from Google. Not you. You're the product .

Tired of this excuse. If the audience is the product, Google still has an interest in selling a quality product. That means not running off more and more of the most tech savvy "product" segment.

The advertisers are the customers, your data is the product.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by SquareWheel »

firebaze wrote: post #80
jacquesm wrote: post #64

They are really on a roll there, how many user hostile moves is that in the last 30 days? I think I lost count at 4. And all in the name of 'helping our users to improve their experience'. Since when is removing features that users depend on a positive? But with the competition as good as dead they can do whatever they want: the bulk of the audience is now captive and has lost either the willpower or the means to att…

Just sell your google stock in the next few months. I wonder why Microsoft doesn't sue Google, they're repeating the Internet Explorer story almost step-by-step.

They've abandoned their browser for five years until it stagnated, slowing progress on the web for all?

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by coldacid »

sumtechguy wrote: post #20
edoceo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may have forgotten: Cash rules everything around me. CREAM! Get the money man! Dolla dolla bill y'all. Wu-Tang is forever.

That is the rub though. The dialog to do this is basically 'done'. This means someone spent time and money to make this 'go away'? Why? Just leave it be seams reasonable?...

Because Google figures, and they're probably correct, that removing it would prevent the average luser from even considering that they could take these privacy-friendly steps in the first place, which ends up putting more money in Google's pockets from the advertisers.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

foota wrote: post #82

I don't get why people think this is a move with some agenda, most likely they just don't think enough people use the single cookie deletion functionality to warrant having it in the settings vs the dev tools.

The hyperbole in this thread is insane. I would wager that none of the furious "this is pure evil!" commenters in this thread even knew this particular settings page existed before today (and I'd bet they still don't know the information is already exposed in the URL bar).

Nobody who isn't a web developer is out there trying to guess what individual cookie names/values mean or wants to delete individual ones. At most, they just want to be able to clear them per-site (or across the entire browser).

Anyone else will use the Developer Tools UI that's better suited for the task.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by [deleted] »

jacquesm wrote: post #64

They are really on a roll there, how many user hostile moves is that in the last 30 days? I think I lost count at 4. And all in the name of 'helping our users to improve their experience'. Since when is removing features that users depend on a positive? But with the competition as good as dead they can do whatever they want: the bulk of the audience is now captive and has lost either the willpower or the means to att…

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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by SomeBoolshit »

deadbunny wrote: post #101
jacquesm wrote: post #64

They are really on a roll there, how many user hostile moves is that in the last 30 days? I think I lost count at 4. And all in the name of 'helping our users to improve their experience'. Since when is removing features that users depend on a positive? But with the competition as good as dead they can do whatever they want: the bulk of the audience is now captive and has lost either the willpower or the means to att…

> But with the competition as good as dead they can do whatever they want Firefox works well enough for me.

They've taken away user control over cookies per site years ago.

People complained, Mozilla ignored the complaints and somehow this all just blew over because of browser extensions against tracking cookies.

There's still no replacement for the "ask me every time" cookie dialog.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by indymike »

londons_explore wrote: post #70

How many users are there who want to delete some but not all cookies for a site, yet aren't able to use the F12 developer tools to do so? I can see some users delete cookies to prevent tracking, but should those users really be deciding which cookies to keep and which to delete when nearly all cookies have very user unfriendly names and data contents? Given that, I agree with the Chrome team here. There shouldn't be…

> There shouldn't be a general-public UI to manipulate individual cookies, since making a mistake is very likely and leaks the user's private info. Power users can use the F12 tools

Um, I'm pretty sure deleting a cookie or too isn't going to leak my private data. If it does, it is because some third party website defaults to doing the stupidest thing possible.

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