Damn. And we lost Servo just when it was getting close to being not shitty. While everything else is moving towards more shitty.
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Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#62If you move the letters G (Google) and C (Chrome) two letters down the alphabet, you get IE.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#63As of today, my main workstation is an "early 2008" iMac, at El Capitan and Chrome maxed out at 83.x...
In addition to Chrome, I'm using six other browsers which work well with HN, my own sites, fb, gmail, ...
I think in today's Web we've achieved an incredible level of compatibility, interoperability, and accessibility.
Are there many sites which don't work across 25 years or 15 years or even 5 years worth of client software? Sure, but...
There are also restaurants I don't go to, roads I don't walk down, and people I don't associate with...
When a site tells me my browser is not good enough, I just turn around and stop visiting, e.g. twitter, reddit, imgur...
The Web is better than ever for me, thanks to this strategy. I've heard it called boundaries and self-respect.
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Written on a 2012 iPad mini with iOS 9.x Safari.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#64They are really on a roll there, how many user hostile moves is that in the last 30 days? I think I lost count at 4. And all in the name of 'helping our users to improve their experience'. Since when is removing features that users depend on a positive?
But with the competition as good as dead they can do whatever they want: the bulk of the audience is now captive and has lost either the willpower or the means to attempt to escape.
It's about time we reboot this web thing.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#65I'm privacy conscious but would not consider looking at such detailed information. For me it's delete all site state on exit. Do people actually look at this stuff?
Developer bias, but being able to delete individual cookies is invaluable. Non-developer hat: PlayStation Network store also had a bug where you'd be logged in, but unable to buy anything. Instead of deleting all data you could delete one cookie and it would temporarily resolve the issue.
I always just used incognito windows for these kinds of issues.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
The same idiots looking ad and data mining revenue, and then seeing what their customer's demands are. Their customers being the ones who are buying services from Google. Not you. You're the product .
Tired of this excuse. If the audience is the product, Google still has an interest in selling a quality product. That means not running off more and more of the most tech savvy "product" segment.
> If the audience is the product, Google still has an interest in selling a quality product.
Not if they are the only ones left in the game.
Under Google’s tutelage, the scope and complexity of the web has grown to where it’s near impossible to create an alternative from scratch.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#67Looking forward to a Google employee lecturing us about how users don't care about these details and how people don't want granular control over site data.
Just out of curiosity, what's the percentage of users outside of devs do you think care about this feature?
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#68I'm privacy conscious but would not consider looking at such detailed information. For me it's delete all site state on exit. Do people actually look at this stuff?
Developer bias, but being able to delete individual cookies is invaluable. Non-developer hat: PlayStation Network store also had a bug where you'd be logged in, but unable to buy anything. Instead of deleting all data you could delete one cookie and it would temporarily resolve the issue.
We have a bug like that in our internal systems at work. If I can't delete an individual cookie, I'll switch to firefox for work stuff. (I currently use chrome for work stuff b/c we have some helpful extensions which are chrome only)
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s more and more obvious we need competition in the browser space. Firefox as an excellent and performant alternative. Personally I use Chrome for work and Firefox for personal stuff.
Do other Chromium based browsers like Brave count? Or do they need be completely separate browser architectures like Firefox and Opera?
Opera uses Chromium nowadays.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#70How many users are there who want to delete some but not all cookies for a site, yet aren't able to use the F12 developer tools to do so?
I can see some users delete cookies to prevent tracking, but should those users really be deciding which cookies to keep and which to delete when nearly all cookies have very user unfriendly names and data contents?
Given that, I agree with the Chrome team here. There shouldn't be a general-public UI to manipulate individual cookies, since making a mistake is very likely and leaks the user's private info. Power users can use the F12 tools.