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Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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I don't envy laptop manufactuerers. "I would buy it if it had a non-chiclet keyboard" "I would buy it if it had a dedicated GPU." "I would buy it if they had an AMD option." "I would buy it if it were cheaper than similar models from huge established corporations." "I would buy it if they figured out the tax and import laws for every country so they could ship it anywhere in the world." "I would buy it if it didn't h…

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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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I would also ask for a better keyboard. The one currently offered (at least with the model I am interested in), is not fit for purpose when it comes to development.

What changes are you interested in for the keyboard? I find it much better than the keyboard I'm currently typing on, a newer XPS 13: better travel and spacing. But I assume you'd find the XPS keyboard just as lacking, if not more.

I couldn't get UK layout which I find most ergonomic and it's missing dedicated Home / End / PgUp / Down keys and cursors are pretty small. I am working on XPS 15 keyboard, which isn't great - especially the cursors are a chore to use.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Here it's cheaper to import 2 of something than to buy locally, so warranty is usually a non-factor for me. But, in general it's a good reason to avoid forwarding services (especially if your part of the world has strong consumer protections like Europe typically does).

How does that not mostly arbitrage itself away? i.e. import two as you say and stick one on eBay or whatever's popular?

Well, the one I'd be selling doesn't have a warranty either. And if someone is okay with that, they can just import it themselves and cut out my profit share. If I were to order enough to get a bulk price and potentially undercut ordering it oneself, there's likely an expectation of a warranty of some kind being available.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Anyone have an opinion on the feel of the keyboard and touchpad, as well as the quality (color gamut, brightness, etc.) of the screen? I'm strongly considering getting one of these, but it's hard to take the leap to a newcomer manufacturer where I can't try before I buy. Also, any idea why the i7-1185G7 is a full $400 more than the 1165G7? Comparison[0] shows no major differences I can see, just some slight clock bum…

Correct, the biggest cost difference is because of vPro, which you probably do not need. Keyboard and touchpad are extremely subjective. As someone who has used ThinkPads exclusively for a very long time and is a huge fan of the trackpoint, I have largely enjoyed using the Framework's touchpad. The keyboard I am a little less certain about. Not having dedicated page up/down/home/end buttons is really throwing me for…

Thanks for the reply! I was running Linux on MacBooks for the longest time, so I got used to the lack of dedicated PgUp/PgDn (and Home[0]/End!) keys (I believe you could use Fn+Up/Down and Fn+Left/Right, which was... okay, but not great).

But I've had a Dell XPS 13 for the past several years, and now I've gotten used to having those keys again, so if I switch, I bet I'll feel that pain again as well. But I also expect I'll get used to switching back.

[0] Then again, I am also constantly accidentally hitting the Insert key, which is next to Home, by accident, which is never what I want and ends up being more annoying than you'd expect.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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That's quite enticing. Hmm. Thanks for mentioning it! I kinda want a cheap/cheerful laptop; maybe this will be it... .

PineBook Pro should be significantly faster, and is a little cheaper.

Unfortunately not available for purchase anywhere right now. But yeah, were it available I'd probably nabbed one. So, thanks for the suggestions! I'll keep an eye out in the future.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#266

If anyone's looking for an inexpensive DIY Laptop, Olimex sells one fully OSHW (!): https://www.olimex.com/Products/DIY-Laptop/

That's quite enticing. Hmm. Thanks for mentioning it! I kinda want a cheap/cheerful laptop; maybe this will be it... .

You're welcome, and If you're who I think you are, thank YOU!

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#267

This is the first time I'm hearing about the Framework laptop and… damn, it looks enticing. Unfortunately, 13" is definitely too small for me (in terms of ergonomics). Are you planning on releasing models with a larger (and matte) screen in the future? Also, could the keyboard "module" in theory be fully customized by the community (so as to support ergonomic layouts similar to ErgoDox, include a trackpoint etc.)? Fi…

True it is 13" but it's a 3:2 aspect ratio so lots of vertical real estate. I will take a 13" 3:2 over a 15" 16:9 any day.
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