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Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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I remember looking into this a while back. They made the whole line super hard to get your hands on. Really curious on the decision making process throughout the line's lifetime.

I interviewed a candidate a couple of years ago who was, at the time, working on Intel's internal self-driving car team. It sounded like a totally directionless, amateurish also-ran catastrophe. Years behind the competition. I wonder if this product line was in a similar situation.

That sort of thing isn't new.

About a dozen years ago I worked for a company that partnered with Intel on a big project. Ultimately the project failed. The biggest problems I saw were:

1) Too many cooks. Different groups from several locations had their fingers all over it. So there were too many expensive, useless features.

2) Too many engineers making product decisions. Engineers often are interested in neat technical features, not in whether a product should include those features. And often engineers don't really care how much those features cost in terms of design time and effort.

3) No real sense of urgency. Consequently there were other, hungrier, companies that ate Intel's lunch.

None of this was new even then. All of this was understood by (other) Intel people way back in the early 1980s. The problem is just how do you herd cats (or engineers or chip architects)? It's very difficult.

You may need to have a small, focused startup to accomplish something. Then that startup gets acquired by the big behemoth. See e.g. Cisco back about 20 years ago. I imagine the same thing happens now, but I don't follow the industry very closely any more.

Also, Cisco at least acquired somewhat related companies. WTF was Intel doing buying companies like McAfee?

Sometimes the spunky competition can even be internal. Again, going back a ways, Intel USA marketing was pushing the architects and engineers to do the Netburst architecture (clock speed was all-important). Which had a lot of problems. Fortunately Intel had what amounted to a startup in Israel. They came up with the Core architecture that saved Intel's ass.

Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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These cameras had some frustrating faults. My friend's master's project relied on their facial recognition cameras. Unfortunately my friend was black and they didn't work at all on his face. He needed his white/asian friends to help him test his application.

But isn't it due to the ML models rather than the camera? Facial recognition models were/are? disastrously biased.

Amazon's Rekognition detected darker skinned women as men or children in our application in 2017(we used it to prevent profile photo having children in our privacy focused dating app), Amazon rep said they were working to fix that but doesn't seem like it as of 2019[1].

[1] https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Technology/wireS...

Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah you're the guy that submits PRs that just changes a failing test instead of the code it's testing

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