Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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Post by zekrioca » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 4:44 PM UTC

Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued
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Post by junon » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:12 PM UTC

I remember looking into this a while back. They made the whole line super hard to get your hands on.

Really curious on the decision making process throughout the line's lifetime.

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Post by jpm_sd » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:15 PM UTC

junon wrote: post #2

I remember looking into this a while back. They made the whole line super hard to get your hands on. Really curious on the decision making process throughout the line's lifetime.

I interviewed a candidate a couple of years ago who was, at the time, working on Intel's internal self-driving car team. It sounded like a totally directionless, amateurish also-ran catastrophe. Years behind the competition. I wonder if this product line was in a similar situation.

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Post by aj7 » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

So they fail in entry to yet another market.

Time to hunker down into the foundry business.

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Post by im_down_w_otp » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:30 PM UTC

aj7 wrote: post #4

So they fail in entry to yet another market. Time to hunker down into the foundry business.

This seems to be pretty typical of companies that have a sustaining cash cow. They're simultaneously compelled to try to find new avenues for growth while unable to really establish, operate, and sustain a commitment to see it through. Intel has x86, Google has AdWords, and they both have a graveyard of alternative product roadmaps around them.

That said, I'm glad to see Intel gaining focus as I don't see it as a generally good thing for them to be floundering in the marketplace.

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Post by lokimedes » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #5

aj7 wrote: post #4

So they fail in entry to yet another market. Time to hunker down into the foundry business.

This seems to be pretty typical of companies that have a sustaining cash cow. They're simultaneously compelled to try to find new avenues for growth while unable to really establish, operate, and sustain a commitment to see it through. Intel has x86, Google has AdWords, and they both have a graveyard of alternative product roadmaps around them. That said, I'm glad to see Intel gaining focus as I don't see it as a gen…

It’s hard being the new product in the BCG matrix. Incumbents seldom remember how meager the traction looked in the beginnings of the lifecycle of their current cash cows.

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Post by echelon » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:36 PM UTC

If you're using their TOF depth sensors, Microsoft's Azure Kinect is a good option that has incredible software support.

I haven't tried them, but Nerian's sensors look like some of the best ones on the market.

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Post by flyinglizard » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:37 PM UTC

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #5

aj7 wrote: post #4

So they fail in entry to yet another market. Time to hunker down into the foundry business.

This seems to be pretty typical of companies that have a sustaining cash cow. They're simultaneously compelled to try to find new avenues for growth while unable to really establish, operate, and sustain a commitment to see it through. Intel has x86, Google has AdWords, and they both have a graveyard of alternative product roadmaps around them. That said, I'm glad to see Intel gaining focus as I don't see it as a gen…

But Google also has YouTube, Gmail, Gsuite, Android and Chrome - all are hugely influential cash cows. Google is a very successful multi-business company. It’s nothing like Intel.

Intel tries to innovate and diversify but they are strangled by their stagnant workforce and internal politics. Two of their biggest acquisitions, Mobileye and Habana Labs chose to remain independent companies to a large degree under separate branding. They source what’s good for them from the mothership, and other than that maintain autonomy. Intel acquisitions which did not do that, instead fully integrating into Intel, mostly failed.

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Post by mips_avatar » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:37 PM UTC

These cameras had some frustrating faults. My friend's master's project relied on their facial recognition cameras. Unfortunately my friend was black and they didn't work at all on his face. He needed his white/asian friends to help him test his application.

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Post by jonas21 » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #5

aj7 wrote: post #4

So they fail in entry to yet another market. Time to hunker down into the foundry business.

This seems to be pretty typical of companies that have a sustaining cash cow. They're simultaneously compelled to try to find new avenues for growth while unable to really establish, operate, and sustain a commitment to see it through. Intel has x86, Google has AdWords, and they both have a graveyard of alternative product roadmaps around them. That said, I'm glad to see Intel gaining focus as I don't see it as a gen…

Or is it simply that we're more aware of the failures because anything a big company does gets press coverage? If you're small, you can fail quietly (and they do all the time).