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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by guax »

lumens wrote: post #218
joakleaf wrote: post #208

If Musk was really serious about this, he would start with smaller steps: 0) Finish the tentacle charging robot they demoed in 2015 (roll out to superchargers) 1) Build delivery robot on wheels using FSD (like the Starship Technology's robots). These could be used on hospitals, possibly warehouses, pizza delivery, cleaning streets, painting lanes on roads, ... 2) Build dog-like robot, like Boston Dynamics's spot with…

Flipped around, but potentially the same takeaways: Turns out building a true FSD car is almost as hard as a humanoid robot. They've already got a Boston Dynamic's-like robot dog internally, but it sucks at getting around a parking lot. i.e. set your expectations of the arrival of true FSD on the car to whenever you think Tesla can actually deliver this robot.

I think their trained data and current models for navigating are almost completely useless for a humanoid robot. They might have the awareness tracking for a certain "scale" of objects but a humanoid robot can trip on a half inch ledge a car can ignore and roll over. Let alone all the control systems for making the legs do leg stuff.

Boston Dynamics is already using modern AI technics and that shows on the huge advancements they had in recent years which, being revolutionary robots, are still kinda useless compared to "traditional" industrial automation costs and applicability.

Tesla is as close to being BD as it is close to being Apple and launching the next iPhone killer.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by stathibus »

machiaweliczny wrote: post #331
sixstringtheory wrote: post #265

I have no knowledge of what kind of logic is used in their FSD code, but I don't see how they can derive much of a motion planning algorithm for a humanoid robot from it. Does a car have to deal with self-collision (accidentally hitting yourself in the face with your hand) or singularities (aka "gimbal lock"/"wrist flip")? Does motion planning for a nonholonomic system like a car easily translate into a holonomic sys…

World perception is what they are solving, control is already mostly solved and can be bought (see Boston Dynamics).

Haha no it isn't

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Post by johnla »

panick21 wrote: post #367
tessierashpool wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk isn’t actually looking for profitable products. He’s trying to be the king of vaporware. Remember the Cybertruck? Or how he said he could control pigs by putting microchips in their brains? Or how Tesla was all in on Bitcoin until it wasn’t? He probably doesn’t even do it to bump the stock price. It’s probably just about doing whatever will impress Grimes for a little while. Then they both smoke so much weed the…

This is just such nonsense, sometimes I question if people ever actually adsorb information or just form lose association and then form an opinion based on how much they like the person involved. > Remember the Cybertruck? Cybertruck is literally not vapoware. It was never even supposed to come out before the end of this year. Technically they are not even late yet. Now they have pushed it back into 2022 but that is…

> No matter SpaceX is universally accepted as the globally dominate space company

You missed the opportunity to say "globally accepted as the universally dominate space company"

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by johnla »

croddin wrote: post #176
CommieBobDole wrote: post #116

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That is a good point; Musk does sometimes announce things that essentially serve as a placeholder for "we're going to do this thing once the technology improves enough to make it feasible", and this is likely more of the same. But "useful humanoid robot" is way more forward-looking than anything else he's done this with; the closest thing would be the whole "full self-driving without LIDAR" thing, which keeps getting…

> But "useful humanoid robot" is way more forward-looking than anything else he's done this with Other aspirational goals he has set include a colony of a million people on Mars and a neural lace. I think a humanoid robot is less ambitious than either of these two.

I feel like with Tesla navigational brain technology, they can easily put together a bot that can mow lawns, sweep and mop floors. Pull out the garbage/bring cans back in. Security Sentry observe. Get mail. Walk dog. Deliver packages. I would pay for a bot that takes those chores off my hands.

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Post by mrjangles »

fogof wrote: post #205
mrjangles wrote: post #169

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First, no one denies that reusability is still not profitable. This includes Musk himself and heads of all the other rocket companies who have all made it clear they aren't pursing it because these is simply no business case for it. At best maybe recovering the fairings or engines could be profitable for now. > The plan is to sell tickets at $400,000 each to get to Mars. His Starship is set to hold 40 people on the t…

> First, no one denies that reusability is still not profitable. This includes Musk himself and heads of all the other rocket companies who have all made it clear they aren't pursing it because these is simply no business case for it. What? Here is "Musk himself" saying in a tweet that Falcon 9 only needs to be reusable 3 times to make sense economically. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1295883862380294144?s=20

Oh ok, thanks for that. The last I had heard was that it would take 10 launches to break even. It seems spaceX has been working very hard making refurbishing the boosters cheaper and cheaper over the last few years.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by renjimen »

IncRnd wrote: post #353
renjimen wrote: post #78

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Even naming a few would actually help your argument, since you can think of so many

I can't even take your comment seriously. Your argument is not advanced by your belief that Musk has accomplished more than all other humans.

I didn't say I believed anything of the sort. I just suggested the parent mention a few people to help his argument.
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