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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by sharikone »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #79
lostapathy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I desperately want this to succeed as well. Enough that I've got a preorder that's supposed to ship this week. I'm willing to take the gamble. Sometimes you have to help fund the change you want to see in the world.

Sometimes 'funding the change you want to see' is merely to appease your own conscience; some real problems are systemic or caused by other actors. Turning a 1 L/min sink off for the 20 seconds of washing your hands doesn't matter when the farmer down the road is growing row crops in a desert with center-pivot irrigation system. But other times, like this? It's absolutely a valid approach. If a high-profile open lapt…

You'd be surprised by how much water has been saved in droughts by encouraging this kind of small scale efforts. E.g. the Cape Town water crisis

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by zerocrates »

pkulak wrote: post #67
tylerscott wrote: post #43

I am currently using the DIY version running Ubuntu. I absolutely love this laptop. It had been awhile since I built a computer (let alone a laptop). The DIY kit instructions and the construction of the machine itself are very well thought out. I am very excited for a future where we can measure the lifespan of our personal electronics in decades rather than months. Congrats to the Framework team!

How do you deal with the screen resolution? Do you have to run it at 1.5x? And, if so, what's the fractional scaling experience like?

Personally I'm currently running at 1x and debating whether or not I need to scale things at something like 1.25 instead. 2x is a total nonstarter for me personally.

It's easy enough to manually configure scaling for the various things that are just browsers and I may do that, or use something like GDK_DPI_SCALE. Frankly, "browser-ish" things and the Terminal cover a very large fraction of what I use the thing for.

Fractional scaling is easy to just turn on in the Display settings but I don't love the results and don't want to really deal with what if anything turning it on will do to Steam/ScummVM/whatever. I haven't really played with it much, though.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#104

Post by lighttower »

varispeed wrote: post #81
filereaper wrote: post #37

I see the founder @nrp replying to a few comments here. @nrp, can you comment on upcoming models? Would love to have a 15" or 17" model with the same swappable ports but with a beefier processor and much larger memory capacities. The larger frames might allow for more ports, but I'm not sure if you're limited by the number of PCIe lanes on these processors. I think a Ryzen offering would also be welcomed. Lastly than…

I would also ask for a better keyboard. The one currently offered (at least with the model I am interested in), is not fit for purpose when it comes to development.

I want the Thinkpad keyboard layout. Big arrow keys. PgUp and PgDn full size. MENU button where the PrtSc button is.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#105

Post by aidenn0 »

michael_j_ward wrote: post #28
rmbyrro wrote: post #7

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Impressive price can mean two opposite things

Impressive means the same thing, but things can be impressive in opposite ways. :P (i too wonder which way was intended)

When my dad was teaching university classes he used to say at the beginning of the semester "You all have a B right now. If you impress me before the end of the semester, you will get a different grade, depending on how you impress me"

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#106

Post by admax88qqq »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #82
admax88qqq wrote: post #66

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That's the downside of such integrated components. The upside is cheaper manufacturing, cheaper less assembly, less power draw, and less physical space.

Good quality integrated components might have a higher MTBF to begin with.

Also true

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#108

Post by wott »

admax88qqq wrote: post #66
kiba wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But replacing a whole motherboard just to fix a few usb ports?

That's the downside of such integrated components. The upside is cheaper manufacturing, cheaper less assembly, less power draw, and less physical space.

USB hubs and similar I/O peripherals are not integrated.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by GiorgioG »

outworlder wrote: post #64
bastardoperator wrote: post #48

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I can't see this succeeding when the laptop I have to assemble myself costs more than a prebuilt laptop with much better specs. I love the idea too, but the price seems a little outrageous.

> I can't see this succeeding when the laptop I have to assemble myself costs more than a prebuilt laptop with much better specs. I mean, if all that mattered were specs, we would all be running desktops at full desktop-class TDP. Or laptops made out of cheap bendy plastic with the latest CPUs. Ergonomics matter, build quality matters, and for some the ability to adapt and upgrade is also part of the spec.

> I mean, if all that mattered were specs, we would all be running desktops at full desktop-class TDP.

As someone doing just that (I do 99% of my work on my desktop machine), to this day I don't understand folks doing heavy development work on a laptop. If you need portability, remote into a desktop class machine. Sure there are times when you just can't (airplane, or camping in the middle of nowhere, etc) but those times are exceedingly rare.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#110

Post by adrusi »

sharikone wrote: post #101
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes 'funding the change you want to see' is merely to appease your own conscience; some real problems are systemic or caused by other actors. Turning a 1 L/min sink off for the 20 seconds of washing your hands doesn't matter when the farmer down the road is growing row crops in a desert with center-pivot irrigation system. But other times, like this? It's absolutely a valid approach. If a high-profile open lapt…

You'd be surprised by how much water has been saved in droughts by encouraging this kind of small scale efforts. E.g. the Cape Town water crisis

A water crisis is almost always a case of using slightly more water than is available, so you can usually address one by putting the burden on whichever consumers are least able to fight back, even if they are least responsible for the crisis.
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