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Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Pruism, Framework, System76 - I think it's less about whether the market is big enough, but more about other effects that allow you to survive in smaller niches. I think today it is just became cheaper for sample companies to offer laptops that can compete with the big names. The Clevo machines of old looked really bad next to a MacBook, today, while still less nice, they are flat and light and minimal as well.

> Pruism, Framework, System76 If there's anything that the past 20 years of American Capitalism has taught us: these companies should all merge, integrate their hardware and software, and then get a bunch of VC money until they are the single, truly-free personal hardware vendor in the market.

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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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post #12

I just ordered a DIY kit from them yesterday. One of the really big factor for me would be a decent battery life. Can I suggest the framework team to also post a base power config for Linux?

I'm kind of surprised battery cells aren't one of the kinds of usbc case modules you can get out of the gate. Obviously they'd be a bit limited in mAh but tbh a lot of the time I'd probably be willing to sacrifice 2 or even 3 of the 4 modules for battery if I'm actually on the go.

(I kind of suspect you might be limited to one though, assuming the power delivery controller can only really handle one external source of power)

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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I've just run the numbers on a framework laptop with 64Gb RAM, i5, and 4TB Nvme = ~$2,100. That's an impressive price. Edit: Impressive as in it's low compared to equally specced big-name laptops.

They seem to be overcharging for components on the DIY page. Most of those things you can get for cheaper elsewhere including Amazon or Newegg. I would expect that they should be be cheaper if they want to get ahead of the game.

On the DIY Edition, all of the off the shelf modules have a "None" option so that you can bring your own. In general we try to stay close to market pricing on memory and storage, but we can't always get there.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They seem to be overcharging for components on the DIY page. Most of those things you can get for cheaper elsewhere including Amazon or Newegg. I would expect that they should be be cheaper if they want to get ahead of the game.

I doubt they have Newegg's purchasing power, at this juncture, and their prices really aren't unreasonable like they would be if you upgrade a Dell or Apple.

Oh sure but they could charge Newegg's price and just order from Newegg? I just feel like if I'm going to order any sort of "bundle" of items I should be getting a discount. Fundamental axiom of sales:

    price([A, B]) 

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#37
I see the founder @nrp replying to a few comments here.

@nrp, can you comment on upcoming models? Would love to have a 15" or 17" model with the same swappable ports but with a beefier processor and much larger memory capacities.

The larger frames might allow for more ports, but I'm not sure if you're limited by the number of PCIe lanes on these processors.

I think a Ryzen offering would also be welcomed.

Lastly thanks so much for this product and for first-class Linux support.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#38
I would have loved to buy this laptop. I did just buy a xps 13. One thing I'm always really worried about when buying a laptop is thermals. With the XPS 13 I could add some thermals pads, new TIM and heat pipes to greatly improve thermals.

Is there any info on the thermals of the Framework laptop?

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