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Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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I just ordered a DIY kit from them yesterday. One of the really big factor for me would be a decent battery life. Can I suggest the framework team to also post a base power config for Linux?

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Hopefully they ship outside of the US at some point.

In the works! We're setting up the infrastructure now to be able to ship and provide support outside the US and Canada. The hardware itself is certified for most markets.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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I hope they succeed in this business model. In this day and age that companies and government want more and more control over our machines, we should prefer these transparent products even if it performs slightly worse than state-of-the-art. If you're wondering about NixOS experience on Framework laptop, there is this blog post I've recently read: https://grahamc.com/blog/nixos-on-framework

There is a need for this, but is there a large enough market? I will look seriously at this product for my next laptop. It seems to follow a similar philosophy in the notebook market as Purism's does in the mini-PC, rack server, and mobile phone markets.

Pruism, Framework, System76 - I think it's less about whether the market is big enough, but more about other effects that allow you to survive in smaller niches.

I think today it is just became cheaper for sample companies to offer laptops that can compete with the big names. The Clevo machines of old looked really bad next to a MacBook, today, while still less nice, they are flat and light and minimal as well.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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That's an ad.

It's a blog post on our company blog. We used to write them weekly to share more detail on different parts of the hardware and systems we're building, but took a pause as we worked through launch. We're now starting back up. We don't post these directly anywhere but our own website, email lists, and social channels, and I assume throwawaysea (who doesn't seem to be a throwaway account) is subscribed to one of those.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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I've just run the numbers on a framework laptop with 64Gb RAM, i5, and 4TB Nvme = ~$2,100. That's an impressive price. Edit: Impressive as in it's low compared to equally specced big-name laptops.

Is that high or low? And is that when buying parts on your own?

Macbook with 64 GB RAM and 4 TB storage is $4600. I'd say that's pretty low.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use a mail forwarder service in the US and ship anywhere instead of waiting?

In Europe, I get 2 years of warranty in stuff that I buy here regularly. (Not sure how the terms translate, and there are more details, roughly: 1 year is a warranty where the supplier has to prove that the defect is not their fault, second year it is the other way round. In practice, if stuff breaks in the first 2 years that is no obviously the user mishandling the device, you get a free repair.)

Here it's cheaper to import 2 of something than to buy locally, so warranty is usually a non-factor for me. But, in general it's a good reason to avoid forwarding services (especially if your part of the world has strong consumer protections like Europe typically does).

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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I've just run the numbers on a framework laptop with 64Gb RAM, i5, and 4TB Nvme = ~$2,100. That's an impressive price. Edit: Impressive as in it's low compared to equally specced big-name laptops.

They seem to be overcharging for components on the DIY page. Most of those things you can get for cheaper elsewhere including Amazon or Newegg.

I would expect that they should be be cheaper if they want to get ahead of the game.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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I've just run the numbers on a framework laptop with 64Gb RAM, i5, and 4TB Nvme = ~$2,100. That's an impressive price. Edit: Impressive as in it's low compared to equally specced big-name laptops.

Is that high or low? And is that when buying parts on your own?

That's what it costs buying the parts from them.

$750 laptop, $360 RAM, $1000 SSD. The RAM is pretty reasonably priced, but you can get your own 4TB SSD for about $500 less. $150 less if you want the exact same model they're selling.

It's a much more reasonable level of markup than RAM/SSD upgrades from other manufacturers, though of course being able to bring your own is a major selling point.

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