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Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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I've been working with Realsense depth cameras for a while, and was mostly pleased with the software, hardware and the ecosystem. Intel developers and engineers seems to be trying hard.

But at the same time I was wondering how, for a behemoth like Intel, that's been making huge profits by selling high volume products with also a high profit margin, such a tiny market, with reasonable priced cameras, is going to satisfy its shareholders.

I guess the answer is here, and won't take long for the whole program to get the axe.

Wondering what will I do if I keep on working on this project

Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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I remember looking into this a while back. They made the whole line super hard to get your hands on. Really curious on the decision making process throughout the line's lifetime.

I interviewed a candidate a couple of years ago who was, at the time, working on Intel's internal self-driving car team. It sounded like a totally directionless, amateurish also-ran catastrophe. Years behind the competition. I wonder if this product line was in a similar situation.

RealSense cameras are/were pretty good. Lower latency than Microsoft Kinect Azure (~70ms vs 300ms), decent depth quality and a well-maintained open source SDK.

Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems to be pretty typical of companies that have a sustaining cash cow. They're simultaneously compelled to try to find new avenues for growth while unable to really establish, operate, and sustain a commitment to see it through. Intel has x86, Google has AdWords, and they both have a graveyard of alternative product roadmaps around them. That said, I'm glad to see Intel gaining focus as I don't see it as a gen…

It’s hard being the new product in the BCG matrix. Incumbents seldom remember how meager the traction looked in the beginnings of the lifecycle of their current cash cows.

even more so when it takes some years before the product gets traction.

Twitter was not an overnight success. The first few years it was ridiculed as a big "completely useless" failure by journalists: the same people which now cannot live without it.

Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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I've been working with Realsense depth cameras for a while, and was mostly pleased with the software, hardware and the ecosystem. Intel developers and engineers seems to be trying hard. But at the same time I was wondering how, for a behemoth like Intel, that's been making huge profits by selling high volume products with also a high profit margin, such a tiny market, with reasonable priced cameras, is going to satis…

This is the problem with a lot of Intel ventures; once did a prototype with Intel's Edison embedded processors only for them to cancel the line.

Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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I've been working with Realsense depth cameras for a while, and was mostly pleased with the software, hardware and the ecosystem. Intel developers and engineers seems to be trying hard. But at the same time I was wondering how, for a behemoth like Intel, that's been making huge profits by selling high volume products with also a high profit margin, such a tiny market, with reasonable priced cameras, is going to satis…

the whole misadventure into consumer electronics has a been a disaster.

Re: Intel's Lidar, face recognition, and tracking cameras will be discontinued

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One thing that "old Intel" used to do a lot was trying to find use cases for more performance. This used to be a strong fear internally, that at some point silicon would get "good enough" and you wouldn't need to buy better silicon.

Gelsinger was very much part of that a decade or two ago, but I guess he's getting more rational and accepted that yes, to run Office pretty much anything will do. At the same time, the need for more silicon, even for basic tasks will remain strong as silicon just ages out (in part thanks to software, see Windows 11 requirements).

So not completely surprising to see Realsense and other similar niche initiatives get cut in that context.

Also, most of them were also kept alive by the previous CEO who pushed for the "maker" / IoT thing as the "next big(ish) thing". So part of that is also a classical CEO succession story.

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