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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I am amazed at how non-techy people use the internet. I teach college and I will sometimes have students go to some web site. I am amazed at how few use adblocking and just accept all the ads and popups and overlays and crap. Even more than that, I will see them using something like google docs and google will put an overlay for some new feature and they don't click the X to close it. They just type away with that ov…

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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I am amazed at how non-techy people use the internet. I teach college and I will sometimes have students go to some web site. I am amazed at how few use adblocking and just accept all the ads and popups and overlays and crap. Even more than that, I will see them using something like google docs and google will put an overlay for some new feature and they don't click the X to close it. They just type away with that ov…

I'm a very techy person and I interact with modals as little as possible, even if that means ignoring a chunk of my screen. I have a probably-unreasonable sense that it's only going to trigger a bunch of JS or something unsafe [1].

[1]: https://archive.is/TZ7oe was the best, but is kinda dead now. https://blog.malwarebytes.com/threat-analysis/2016/01/clickj...

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I expected these numbers to be higher. However, an even more interesting metric is the 88% block in Firefox. Firefox may not have a great market share, but based on these numbers it's market share may very well be eight times higher than your analytics report. This can change the argument of "it's only 3% of our users so we don't need to test on FF" to "it's a quarter of our user base, we should at least test it", de…

I expected these numbers to be higher.

These numbers are iffy or at least, very poorly described. They're not a percentage of HN or Reddit users - in the HN case, the sample is HN users who clicked on a front page link to a post about switching to Linux from MacOS. It's a fairly small sample biased in ways that are unknowable when all you have is that one sample. As a methodology, this is flaky enough to not warrant the headline and the significant digits in these numbers.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Just change your gender to trans/alien and your age to 5...

"trans" isn't a gender. But, I am trans, and advertisers are more than prepared to advertise to me. So I'm not sure what the goal would be there.

Irrelevant ads are less likely to work.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I am amazed at how non-techy people use the internet. I teach college and I will sometimes have students go to some web site. I am amazed at how few use adblocking and just accept all the ads and popups and overlays and crap. Even more than that, I will see them using something like google docs and google will put an overlay for some new feature and they don't click the X to close it. They just type away with that ov…

I know a CTO with plenty of wealth and space that sits at a kitchen table with a laptop instead of setting up a home work station. I know information workers who have workplaces that would gladly pay for nicer monitors or keyboards but don’t bother to even request them. I know a couple with a brand new house that has a miserably squeaky front door that could be silenced a half dozen ways in under a minute. People of…

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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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> They faked the ratings away from stupid trash TV towards some higher quality stuff, documentaries, culture, ... Obviously in the movie then the country saw a renaissance, everyone got smarter, yadda yadda, you get it. > I feel like this is similar. All tech savvy people block ads and analytics and at least the known tricks they use against us. So the internet only tracks the defenseless people and is then built to…

>why should we put up with it? You, your friends, and your family personally don't have to put up with it. Ublock Origin can block ads on Youtube with ease.

I agree on a personal level, although at a societal level I believe regulation is required.

As per the parent comment to my original one, I just fundamentally do not believe that most advertising contributes anything positive to society and mostly generates negative externalities.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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That is how it is with documentaries. Just because they are getting lower viewing numbers doesn't mean you shouldn't keep promoting them. Certainly there should be a mix of entertainment and public interest stuff, but following audience preferences for entertainment creates a feedback loop that damages society.

Things like documentaries are mostly watched by already well-off people (mostly middle class and up). In Germany, public TV is paid for by (nearly?) every household. [0] Forcing everyone, including poor people, to subsidize rich people's taste for documentaries seems a bit.. off? Similar arguments apply to public libraries and opera houses, though at least there the financing is done mostly via progressive taxation.…

> Things like documentaries are mostly watched by already well-off people (mostly middle class and up).

assuming a normal distribution, wouldn't this then be the majority of people?

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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"large scale AdWords fraud." Be carefull - fraud is a crime. But I am under no obligation to provide AdWords any data, let alone true and reliable data. Considering the tracking and spying, and my legitimate interest in privacy, there is no room for fraud argument here. PS: this would be probably a Hoax

Correct, fraud isn’t the correct term here. The op grabbed the first word that probably presented itself, and others nearly ad nauseam (lowercase) have discussed its merits as the term. What’s needed is a better term. I propose either AdTurfing (hat tip AstroTurfing) or AdLighting (hat tip GasLighting). My personal preference is the second.

Isn't it just vandalism?

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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post #444

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That is how it is with documentaries. Just because they are getting lower viewing numbers doesn't mean you shouldn't keep promoting them. Certainly there should be a mix of entertainment and public interest stuff, but following audience preferences for entertainment creates a feedback loop that damages society.

Things like documentaries are mostly watched by already well-off people (mostly middle class and up). In Germany, public TV is paid for by (nearly?) every household. [0] Forcing everyone, including poor people, to subsidize rich people's taste for documentaries seems a bit.. off? Similar arguments apply to public libraries and opera houses, though at least there the financing is done mostly via progressive taxation.…

People choose from what is presented to them. That's consumerism. It's not like people get to pick what gets produced. If more public interest material is available and advertised, it'll get watched more. The alternative is to watch less TV and engage with society directly more. Both of those outcomes would be preferable to the excessive production and consumption of entertainment.

Private broadcasters do not pick material based on public interest or even their judgment of what is good. It is far more mechanical and influenced entirely by market forces. Herman and Chomsky discuss this in Chapter 1 of Manufacturing Consent.

https://ia802700.us.archive.org/31/items/pdfy-NekqfnoWIEuYgd...

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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post #362

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Get yourself a PiHole&PiVPN or NextDNS and never look at ads on any of your devices again

Oh yeah because sending all your DNS requests to a US company that's probably under duress by the NSA to hand over logs sounds like a great idea!

Newsflash: most of your data is reaching a US based company anyway
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