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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by arepublicadoceu »

wodenokoto wrote: post #188
Mindwipe wrote: post #106

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> It must be very disheartening to work on reddit's mobile site. You can probably cross "mobile" out of this entirely. Reddit have spent three years now building sites that are worse in every way than the decade old junker it's trying to replace.

Say what you want about the implementation but the new design is definitely better for watching memes. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the design doc simply said “focus on memes”

It’s definitely not better then old reddit + reddit enhancement suit.

So, maybe, they should have improved the old design instead of creating that insanity that is newreddit.

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Post by lucasverra »

Dah00n wrote: post #235
tmslnz wrote: post #200

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I found NextDNS to be relatively convenient and easy to set up even for a lay audience. Definitely easier than a PiHole or a custom `dnsmasq` setup, and it offers mobile configuration client apps. What I do not know is if it will work also when apps begin using DNS over HTTPS… I suppose not?

Unless they provide a VPN it is only blocking the not-so-bad-actors. Everyone else use hardcoded DNS IPs. If you look at traffic from an Android phone you will get lots of DNS requests to Google DNS no matter if you use NextDNS or not. If you only provide one (primary) DNS IP in android 8.8.8 8 (Google DNS) will even be used by default together with your DNS provider. Same is going on in iOS. If they do provide a VPN…

IOS have the NextDnS app as a vpn setup. So I guess yes?

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by e3bc54b2 »

cookie_monsta wrote: post #226
jsymolon wrote: post #171

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> overwhelming response here was negative, presupposing greed and lack of privacy of everyone Because the history of other platforms which have done this, shows that ads didn't go away. Cable TV, full of ads. Satellite Radio, not too bad but still has ads.

But then again Netflix et al, zero ads Spotify premium, zero ads I think it's just a question of coming up with the right model. Assuming that failed examples are the rule isn't all that useful

Netflix doesn't have ads, yet. Spotify Premium doesn't have ads, yet.

Hulu didn't use to have ads on its most premium tier, and from what I know, you now get ads on that too. Corporations generally don't like leaving money on the table. If you can pay, you are even better target for ads.

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Post by jobigoud »

gruez wrote: post #245
yissp wrote: post #239

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How long until they start putting cameras in them and doing facial recognition?

Put tape over it?

They could put an IR camera right next to the remote sensor. Since it's behind a glass that is opaque to visible-light you wouldn't even know the camera's there, and if you put tape on it your remote wouldn't work anymore.

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Post by nacs »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #254
zibzab wrote: post #211

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It's odd a company of that size cannot roll their own solution.

It's odd a company of the size of GM cannot roll their own gas station and toad construction network. What's the purpose of the Mozilla organisation? Is it in creating a analytics platform? Mind that value of GA comes from all the info they have and thus can estimate age, gender, social things, ... of users etc. Building an comparable service is a notable effort with little synergies to what Mozilla does. (Whereas Go…

I’m a Firefox user but let’s face it, Mozilla doesn’t have to make their own — there are plenty of open-source, self-hostable analytics solutions.

(Also the “toad construction network” made me laugh)

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Post by z3t4 »

Closi wrote: post #242
turbinerneiter wrote: post #15

There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…

> They faked the ratings away from stupid trash TV towards some higher quality stuff, documentaries, culture, ... Obviously in the movie then the country saw a renaissance, everyone got smarter, yadda yadda, you get it. > I feel like this is similar. All tech savvy people block ads and analytics and at least the known tricks they use against us. So the internet only tracks the defenseless people and is then built to…

Just change your gender to trans/alien and your age to 5...

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Post by dreen »

turbinerneiter wrote: post #15

There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…

I think very few actual people click on ads. Ad exchange platforms get majority of their revenue from impressions anyway.

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Post by geraneum »

belter wrote: post #151
turbinerneiter wrote: post #15

There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…

Is this the fee you have to pay even if you are blind or deaf, or do not have a Radio or TV? Gives you the most boring TV News in the world, plus 600 movies per year nobody wants to watch, because they are horrible? But they collected the tax and they have to spend it, as the German actors guild is worst than a cartel? :-) https://www.german-way.com/germanys-tv-tax-the-debate-over-t...

I personally prefer boring news backed by quality journalism and funded by people rather than sensational, outrageous and superficially controversial news! If I want the excitement I watch a drama or action movie. I think the news articles/pieces work like clickbait; the more head-turning they get, the more viewers they acquire which results in higher profits.

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Post by nacs »

Dah00n wrote: post #229
happybuy wrote: post #71

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Google has no incentive to support effective ad blocking on platforms they control (Android and Chrome). This has made us reluctant to develop for or invest time on these platforms – the platform owner would be working against what we would be trying to achieve.

What? Apple is even worse. There was a big cry when Google wanted to nuter adblockers API but Apple have done exactly the same thing. You fell into a pr stunt. Apple doesn't care for privacy. Just look at how they scan you pictures..

Apple literally built an API for ad-blocking. How is that worse?
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