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Chocolat - the new editor

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Re: Chocolat - the new editor

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post #32

"Who doesn't like tabs?" In text editors? Me. I don't like thinking about which individual files are open. Any file under the root of my project (i.e. the editor's current working directory) is fair game for an open buffer. I treat open file as "go to class".

Emacs user.

Nope, I'm a Vim guy.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#112
post #70

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I think zen is the keyword. Apps like textmate or this one or mac os/apps in general are not simple because it's cool to be simple - they just hide the power that's under the hood so your tired eyes and brain can focus on the task at hand. But ultimately it's about your own zen : whatever makes each one happier and more productive, be it eclipse, netbeans, vim or textmate. I really want to break out of the terminal.…

> Have you tried MacVim? Maybe if it's in the next Debian release

Don't worry, it is nearly identical to vim-gtk in Debian :).

Since MacVim is a Cocoa application it integrates more nicely in OS X than vim-gtk would.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#113
post #62

With the amount of muscle memory and (deeply personalized) customization that goes in to getting comfortable with an editor, it seems like the hardest place to attract users, and since vim and emacs have already done everything worth doing in an editor (except flashy buttons I guess), it seems like the hardest place to innovate. textmate, bbedit, kod, coda, sublime text, and now this What is interesting about this sp…

I don't choose vim or emacs for the same reason I don't choose Linux. The appeal of OS X is that it's a pleasant place to spend time, full of well crafted GUIs specifically for it, while retaining a good amount of Unix power.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

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Don't lie— we're all gonna buy TextMate 2 anyway.

TextMate 2 will be a free upgrade

i fear that might not be the case if/when it ever comes out. i have a sinking feeling textmate 2 will end up as a mac store only app, and there's no way to provide free licenses to previous owners of non-mac store licenses.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#116
post #92

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Don't lie— we're all gonna buy TextMate 2 anyway.

TextMate 2 will be a free upgrade

i fear that might not be the case if/when it ever comes out. i have a sinking feeling textmate 2 will end up as a mac store only app, and there's no way to provide free licenses to previous owners of non-mac store licenses.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#119
post #92

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Well, since TextMate 2 still hasn't come out yet, and this seems to appeal to a very similar aesthetic, I could see this taking over that market. I'm definitely very interested to try it out.

Don't lie— we're all gonna buy TextMate 2 anyway.

If it really does end up being a free upgrade I'll download it and give it a shot, but Textmate really soured me on paying for a closed-source editor.

TextMate was the best editor I'd ever seen on a computer lab Mac, and when I finally bought my own one of the first things I bought was a TM license. Now there's been two years and three major Mac OS X revisions with almost no real news or updates except an id Software style "working on it."

In the interim I've become proficient with both vim and emacs, preferring console vim + tmux for now. A new editor would be hard-pressed to win me away from that, especially if they're asking for money.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

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This is the programmer/IDE-dweeb's version of "well yeah.. but does it run Linux?" Only half joking; the parent's comment is exactly what I thought after searching through the feature list. It's funny how, when forced to work outside of vim, the first thing I (and at least one other person, it would seem) do is try to make the environment as vim-like as possible (with usually-mixed-to-unsatisfactory results). Eclipse…

Whoa! Thanks for the heads-up on VsVim. I'll be installing that tomorrow. http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/59ca71b3-a4a3-...

I use VsVim on a daily basis, and really like it, but I've also found that it can bog down the IDE a bit at times (especially if you've left VS running but are doing other things for awhile). It's not a deal-breaker for me, though.
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