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Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

#81

If it is any consolation, we will probably experience massive inflation in the next 20-30 years. Those with primarily financial (and not physical) assets will be hardest hit. At some point the economic wizardry will hit the fan. But on a less depressing note, I suggest paying less attention to the areas where people are “getting rich.” Money isn’t the measure of true value and you will rarely find a correlation betwe…

You realize stock markets are at ATH because of the printing of money right?

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

#82

How do you not become discouraged? You don't have your identity in doing better than everyone else. And you don't have your happiness in how much money you have or in what you can buy. And how do you do that ? Aye, there's the rub. I think you do it by having your identity and your happiness somewhere else. You need more than just "not there". You need a specific somewhere else. For me, it's in Jesus Christ and his l…

That HN submission about hard work rubbed me the wrong way. Because people said that being the best is the only thing that matters you literally shouldn't even try if your IQ is too low. The idea that everyone is trying to become the best is wrong. Everyone is trying to find their place in this world and that may sometimes involve trying to become the best. I don't know why but everyone seems to forget that the avera…

> being the best is the only thing that matters you literally shouldn't even try if your IQ is too low

Being the best version of yourself. If your IQ is too low, the first step is to improve it. Hard work.

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

#83

It is not true, you see it because people like to brag. But they prefer to hide their problems, sometimes very deep. The society discourages talking about these things unless you are close friends. Whereas positive aspects are amplified. I give you an example. I have a couple of friends with two kids. They have an amazing FB/Instagram feed. You immediately see a wonderful model family living in a beautiful house, tra…

Someone in my family lost over 20K in bitcoin when he sold for lower than what he bought them for during recent ups and downs. So yea, this is nothing but selection bias. Not to mention that outside of HN echo chamber, there are plenty of people who have no idea how to do crypto, index funds, startups and what not. They go to work, get a paycheck, do may be a 401K and live paycheck to paycheck.

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

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It is not true, you see it because people like to brag. But they prefer to hide their problems, sometimes very deep. The society discourages talking about these things unless you are close friends. Whereas positive aspects are amplified. I give you an example. I have a couple of friends with two kids. They have an amazing FB/Instagram feed. You immediately see a wonderful model family living in a beautiful house, tra…

Someone in my family lost over 20K in bitcoin when he sold for lower than what he bought them for during recent ups and downs. So yea, this is nothing but selection bias. Not to mention that outside of HN echo chamber, there are plenty of people who have no idea how to do crypto, index funds, startups and what not. They go to work, get a paycheck, do may be a 401K and live paycheck to paycheck.

I mined more than a few thousand Bitcoin back in the pre-“Bitcoin pizza” days when it was a complete curiosity. Difficulty so low you could chuck a couple dozen desktops at it for a weekend and come back with dozens and dozens of Bitcoin on Monday morning.

I basically used it as a benchmark and never even saved a single wallet file, it was worthless junk data at the time since no one was even sure it was going to be worth something.

It’s taken years since the first booms past $10k but I’m pretty zen now about the fact I threw away what was basically a hybrid between Schrödinger’s cat and a lottery ticket that one day turned into stuff worth a couple hundred of million dollars.

Edit: hope no one thinks I mean this in a “at least you only lost $20k” or “you think that’s bad” sort of way. I definitely have a sympathy for that feeling of loss, and share this story to highlight just how impossible it can be to predicted future value. There are lots of similar stories about startups like Dropbox trying to sell to Apple, or Blockbuster passing on Netflix and the list goes on. The lesson is to be accept the outcome of your past choices as the right one at the time (as long as there’s no real direct negative repercussions, but there’s not normally when it comes to investments) and be happy you got what you did from your choice at the time… be it a lawn ornament, paperweight, some deeper knowledge of Linux clusters, or a few thousand dollars.

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

#85

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Someone in my family lost over 20K in bitcoin when he sold for lower than what he bought them for during recent ups and downs. So yea, this is nothing but selection bias. Not to mention that outside of HN echo chamber, there are plenty of people who have no idea how to do crypto, index funds, startups and what not. They go to work, get a paycheck, do may be a 401K and live paycheck to paycheck.

I mined more than a few thousand Bitcoin back in the pre-“Bitcoin pizza” days when it was a complete curiosity. Difficulty so low you could chuck a couple dozen desktops at it for a weekend and come back with dozens and dozens of Bitcoin on Monday morning. I basically used it as a benchmark and never even saved a single wallet file, it was worthless junk data at the time since no one was even sure it was going to be…

That is a great philosophy to have, and a great description of these hindsight opportunities.

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

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I mined more than a few thousand Bitcoin back in the pre-“Bitcoin pizza” days when it was a complete curiosity. Difficulty so low you could chuck a couple dozen desktops at it for a weekend and come back with dozens and dozens of Bitcoin on Monday morning. I basically used it as a benchmark and never even saved a single wallet file, it was worthless junk data at the time since no one was even sure it was going to be…

That is a great philosophy to have, and a great description of these hindsight opportunities.

I’ll admit it does help that it never really caught me by surprise. I would hear about Bitcoin every now and then in the years between my early experiments while at university doing silly things with a stack of OpenMosix enabled Linux live CDs like scripting up a master disk on a CDRW (to modify the script each week) to auto generate a wallet spawn as many processes as there were OpenMosix nodes in the cluster and the spend the weekend wandering around from lab to lab rebooting any spare desktop into another in-memory OpenMosix node, and have the master print a summary of the mined coins to a printer Monday morning then delete everything by rebooting back into the normal operating system early Monday morning before students got in for classes.

I had my fun and learned some cool stuff. It’s been the anchor I hold whenever I notice the price of Bitcoin and do the trivial multiplication between the current cost of Bitcoin and what I remember roughly mining all those years ago. But like I said, regular exposure to the ideal does help. It’s much easier to come to terms with “loosing”/not acquiring a thousand dollars or ten thousand or a hundred thousand before it turns into millions of dollars than it is to come to terms with suddenly discovering that something you discarded and never thought about is worth a hundred million.

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

#87

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Predicting high inflation while interest rates are low seems crazy to me. The Fed can and will raise interest rates, causing inflation to moderate. High interest rates will devastate parts of the economy, but that's a different and more well known problem.

Can the Fed raise interest rates significantly without bankrupting the Federal government? The Federal debt needs to be rolled over every now and then. At certain interest rates, the costs of servicing the debt become unacceptably high. Where is that 'breaking point'? If you see some serious analysis of this, please let me know. But there is a higher bound to which the Fed can feasibly raise interest rates. So it is…

The Fed doesn't set bond interest rates. Rates on bonds are set by an auction. If bond interest rates are low, it's because bond investors want bonds. Which is to say, they think the US government will have no trouble paying them back. So the government borrows cheaply, and investors believe they will be able to continue to.

The Fed sets a different rate, one that banks use to lend money to each other. It forms kind of a floor for lending. They raise it to reduce lending, and thus slowing down the economy in general (and thus reducing inflation).

They've kept the latter at nearly zero -- arguably for the not-great reason of propping up assets. If anything, raising that would make bonds more attractive relative to stocks, dropping the interest rate further. Instead, we've gotten inflation, but only in the asset markets, not consumer inflation.

They actually wanted consumer inflation to be higher, so that consumers would be forced to put their money in asset markets rather than holding it in cash. They've finally gotten their wish, though it's likely that it is due more to pandemic-related shutdowns than to monetary-based demand.

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

#88

Aquire something Money can’t buy, like a skill. Then take solace in the thought that money can (did) lose all its value over night, while the skill you acquired remains. Also think about that it’s easier to find true friendship when you have little more to offer than yourself. Basically stop glorifying material wealth. I know, easier said than done :)

The vast majority of people's wealth consists of their own body and mind. People always say how inflation hits the poor but if they spend all their money and switch jobs frequently to get raises with inflation it is basically neutral to them because all their wealth is stored in their body and mind. The real problem is that during inflation and negative interest rates monopolies like land become stronger and can take…

I'm not sure what you mean by calling land a monopoly. Do you mean "because land is a limited resource". Please explain.

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

#89

It is not true, you see it because people like to brag. But they prefer to hide their problems, sometimes very deep. The society discourages talking about these things unless you are close friends. Whereas positive aspects are amplified. I give you an example. I have a couple of friends with two kids. They have an amazing FB/Instagram feed. You immediately see a wonderful model family living in a beautiful house, tra…

This is an exact example of why I don't waste any moment of my life with social media. It's just loaded with fake trash like that. People trying to show off how they're successful and have an amazing life, but reality is they're barely scraping by, and often miserable. Social media is about as accurate of a representation of life as reality TV is an accurate representation of people.

Re: Ask HN: It seems like everyone is getting rich?

#90
> How do you prevent becoming discouraged or distracted when there seems like so many opportunities calling and so many people doing better

Because the perception is not the reality. There is no great gravy train that you're missing out on. Yes, there are real opportunities for certain -- but there are always real opportunities. There's nothing special about today on that count.

Also, I'd point out the old adage: Comparing yourself to others will make you both vain and bitter, because there will always be someone doing worse than you, and always someone doing better.

But, to actually answer your question: I don't become discouraged or distracted because it's not my goal to "get rich". I have other goals, instead.

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