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China has forbidden under-18s from playing games for more than three hours/week

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> Gaming companies will be barred from providing services to minors in any form outside the stipulated hours and must ensure they have put real-name verification systems in place, said the regulator, which oversees the country's video games market.

This will almost certainly be extended beyond China because of the obvious data mining revenue and will almost certainly be a net loss for consumers globally.

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The restriction is specifically "online games". Not offline games. Which is interesting because it implies that offline games are somehow less addictive - but in my experience, offline games can be very engaging, too. But perhaps it's in a more wholesome, problem-solving way? It's kinda impressive that the CCP can make decisions that affect 1B+ humans like this, overnight. I hope it's the right thing to do, for the k…

Yet you might be surprised to know that, in China, all those "offline games" are categorized as online games because they all can be distributed online, when it comes to import reviews. No game is safe from this, really.

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As a side note, this is more evidence that we're about to see the pendulum swing back towards decentralized IT systems. Social media, megatech companies, censorship, and privacy issues are taking some of the shine off highly centralized systems, and we might see a renaissance of offline, sometimes-connected, distributed, privacy-oriented systems.

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Wouldn't those kids grow up resenting the CCP? If the CCP keeps doing this long enough, they're going to have millions of sullen people and then all it takes is just one spark.

I don't think so, although I wish it were the case. Kids can play outside with other kids, or go do something different, no kid will recent anything because they can't play those dumb pay to win mobile games. The only looser here will be Tencent and the other gaming companies.

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I haven't played a good game in nearly a decade. I used to play them for the story, then it all became too grindy, trainers became moneymakers (yeah I used cheats, sue me, I played for fun), everything needs a fking Internet connection and anticheat software that does god knows what. Kinda sad.

I haven't played recent games, but are they really more grindy than e.g. EverQuest or the NES Square/Enix games?

If you want to unlock everything without spending real money, then yes they are often by far more grindy. Companies realized that putting huge grinds which you can pay to skip is by far the best way to make money from games so today this is in most games. This is the modern slot machine equivalent.

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This is actually worse, underaged minors are only allowed to play from 2000-2100 in Fri, Sat, and Sun(and holidays). Down from cumulative 1.5 hours(3 hour in holidays) per day in 0600-2200. There's no clear effective date for this mandate. But many of the game I see have those policy in place already. The restriction applies to "online games", but keep in mind in China GaaS games(read: gacha games) are the norm, they…

i can't imagine tencent and the like are happy about this in the slightest

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You shouldn't have mixed feelings. This is an attack on human free will. UK lets children drink.

In UK you can't buy alcohol if you're below 18. You can drink alcohol in a public place if you're 16 and there is an accompanying adult buying it for you. It's not quite a "free for all", but anyway, I doubt it relates to the issue at hand. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age#Europe

Those rules are for public drinking. There doesn't seem to be any age restriction for private alcohol consumption in the UK, or for that matter most of Europe.

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This is actually worse, underaged minors are only allowed to play from 2000-2100 in Fri, Sat, and Sun(and holidays). Down from cumulative 1.5 hours(3 hour in holidays) per day in 0600-2200. There's no clear effective date for this mandate. But many of the game I see have those policy in place already. The restriction applies to "online games", but keep in mind in China GaaS games(read: gacha games) are the norm, they…

i can't imagine tencent and the like are happy about this in the slightest

Tencent have been reducing their gaming revenue footprints down to single digit %. IMO giant behemoth for the like of BATTMD will manage since they have the money to spare. It will hurt. but in the long run it won't be a big deal.

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My first computer was a 486 33mhz w/ about 250MB HD . I could only keep a couple games installed at a time, meaning i was always installing and uninstalling. Then I had to play with the autoexec.bat and cmd.com files . Then I broke it. Then i had to fix it cause my mom was still making payments on the computer (like it was a refrigerator with a 10yr lifespan) ... This is how I got into computing. Come to think if of…

+1 for breaking autoexec.bat (on a 386). And getting yelled at by my dad, who needed it for work. Thankfully, this led to a great decision when he upgraded -- his old machine became mine. If I broke it, well, that was my problem, and I should learn how to fix it. Cue ~10 year old me learning about the Windows / DOS boot process. In summary, we should encourage kids to play games, but make them harder to install and m…

That's an interesting idea. If I have kids maybe I should tell them "you can play any game you can run on Linux. Here's an Ubuntu CD, helpdesk is at google.com. If you get really stuck tell me what you've tried so far and I'll give you some suggestions on what to ask Google. Oh, by the way, if you'd like to write your own games, I'll be happy to help you."

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Is the original article not a major journalistic misstep then? Nowhere does it clarify that this only applies to online gaming.

I found some government documents to support my view that all games available on the Internet are "online games" in the eyes of the Chinese government http://www.gov.cn/flfg/2010-06/22/content_1633935.htm translated form deepl: "The online game referred to in this method refers to the software program and information data composition, through the Internet, mobile communication networks and other information networks…

Well no, that doesn't follow such an interpretation.

You only provide a single player offline game once. And you don't provide any service over information networks outside of the download and updates.

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