Anyone who thinks this is cool should check out Sublime Text 2. It has all these features and much more (json config files? oh yes). Also, it's cross-platform; learn once, use everywhere.
Agreed
Chocolat - the new editor
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Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#72With the amount of muscle memory and (deeply personalized) customization that goes in to getting comfortable with an editor, it seems like the hardest place to attract users, and since vim and emacs have already done everything worth doing in an editor (except flashy buttons I guess), it seems like the hardest place to innovate. textmate, bbedit, kod, coda, sublime text, and now this What is interesting about this sp…
Programmer's editors are the kind of product that has enthusiasts. They're like wine. There'll always be a market for them, innovation or no.
Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this the reason people commenting seem legitimately excited? I'm a Linux/vim guy; I appreciate when people make lean, straightforward 'simple' applications but this just appears to be a Macified version of vim... since TextMate was supposed to be Macified vim, I couldn't really see the point. I hate to be a neckbeard on this one, but I get irritated when Mac guys conflate 'simple' and 'graphical'. If this editor h…
I think zen is the keyword. Apps like textmate or this one or mac os/apps in general are not simple because it's cool to be simple - they just hide the power that's under the hood so your tired eyes and brain can focus on the task at hand. But ultimately it's about your own zen : whatever makes each one happier and more productive, be it eclipse, netbeans, vim or textmate. I really want to break out of the terminal.…
> Have you tried MacVim?
Maybe if it's in the next Debian release
Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#74Anyone who thinks this is cool should check out Sublime Text 2. It has all these features and much more (json config files? oh yes). Also, it's cross-platform; learn once, use everywhere.
Do you often switch from linux to windows for your coding environment?
Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#75Anyone who thinks this is cool should check out Sublime Text 2. It has all these features and much more (json config files? oh yes). Also, it's cross-platform; learn once, use everywhere.
> json config files? oh yes
I find JSON makes for awful config files. For the sole reason that they can't be commented.
Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure how well "relegated" is going to go over here since Vim and Emacs are considered by many the best editors. If you're on a Gnome-flavored Linux, then many "lesser" editors can use GVFS to remotely work on files.
Don't get me wrong, I have grown to love emacs. I use it all day, every day, and a good portion of my hippocampus is dedicated to storing away emacs keyboard shortcuts. But why can't I have what is good about emacs (a ton of buffers, unlimited bash shells, keyboard based) in a native text editor? I'm content with emacs now, but why do engineers have to spend so much time wrestling with an editor like emacs before bei…
Emacs has hundreds of thousands of man-hours of development time put into building features for it. Throwing that away just because you want something prettier isn't worth it.
Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#77Anyone who thinks this is cool should check out Sublime Text 2. It has all these features and much more (json config files? oh yes). Also, it's cross-platform; learn once, use everywhere.
> json config files? oh yes I find JSON makes for awful config files. For the sole reason that they can't be commented.
This, a thousand times this.
Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I purchased Vico and haven't regretted it yet. I'll be pleased when the Lion bugs get sorted out. I've also wanted to love Textmate but can't give up my vim commands.
Yeah, I love Vico. I'm not coming from a vim background, so the progressive enhancement approach really works for me. It'll be nice when it stops crashing on Lion, but hey, I haven't lost any work yet :P The only thing I really miss from TextMate is transparent backgrounds... hopefully that's coming in the future.
Just curious – why do you use Vico instead of MacVim?
Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#79Probably should implement something like screen too
Re: Chocolat - the new editor
#80Anyone who thinks this is cool should check out Sublime Text 2. It has all these features and much more (json config files? oh yes). Also, it's cross-platform; learn once, use everywhere.
learn once, use everywhere.