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In a very boring and traditional way: you buy a domain name, configure dynamic DNS, and then use port forwarding in your home firewall. No 3rd party proxies.
Not sure that makes me anymore comfortable! Open port to my storage from the internet? But I’m glad they’re not backdooring anything….
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The required subscription also means it's useless if they go out of business.
Yes. But it’s also useless if they go out of business period. I know, I know, opensource it in the event of bankruptcy and continue receiving security updates and what not. But when as that ever actually panned out? Tbh, I don’t know why subscriptions get such a bad rap on HN. recurring revenue (ie subscription) is actually one of the best tool we have for ensuring the products/services we depend on don’t go under.
Because a lot of the times things don't need a subscription, but it's just a way for the company to squeeze more money out of you.
Some things you can't buy of course, like a streaming service, and I do pay for them. However, I will never 'rent' an online movie which I can only watch once or some such bullshit where the limitation is 0% technical and 100% someone wanting more money out of me.
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That's exactly how it works
I feel that the internet is doing the full circle again, mediated by rent seekers - 1. all IPs are the same, email for everyone 2. residential IPs cannot into email cause spam 3. consumers don't get into IPs anymore cause CGNAT 3. AWS collects all the other available IPs and rents them out 4. consumers can now get IPs again, rented from AWS 5. ... 6. profit !
So now Amazon gets to market segment and sells a trusted email service, too!
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That's exactly how it works
I feel that the internet is doing the full circle again, mediated by rent seekers - 1. all IPs are the same, email for everyone 2. residential IPs cannot into email cause spam 3. consumers don't get into IPs anymore cause CGNAT 3. AWS collects all the other available IPs and rents them out 4. consumers can now get IPs again, rented from AWS 5. ... 6. profit !
Elsewhere in the thread gsreenivas mentions that the solution is too expensive for spammers and so they haven't had a problem with that yet, so we've actually moved to the original solution to spam: charge for sending e-mail*. The original proposal was to charge per email but an annual subscription would have the same effect in the right market (for now.)
* Wasn't it Bill Gates who suggested that?
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Company integrity/actually wanting to empower users. This unreasonably forces dependency on the company and bricks the device once support inevitably ends. That's usually a pretty good indication for a user-hostile company.
I'm not sure where you got that the device would be bricked. Can you point me to where you saw this? All data is accessible on local ports on the LAN, with or without the subscription service.
Considering R&D and manufacture, it looks to me like you're offering the box itself at cost or even below. Your obvious competitor is Synology, and they have an extensible storage space concept.
So I agree with you that the meat is probably in the Apps. You're offering an email solution as the killer subscription service using somewhat questionable marketing text. But again, that can be fixed. If you were to say "okay, we're planning on offering a range of subscription apps where the core concept is to provide a public-internet service endpoint and the resulting data gets funneled directly into your home box" then you're much clearer about the value you provide and customers would have an expectation that a) their app still works if the subscription expires (it just doesn't get any new data) and b) what they're paying for in the first place. Throw in an info graph that shows the data flow!
Of course, you might have to contend with open source implementations that offer the same endpoint services as a self-hosted option BUT you could even embrace that and make the protocols open because I suspect that the convenience of your all-in-one services would trump the complexity of self hosting in most cases.
Other services/apps you could offer along the same lines could be: federated social media, video downloading and conversion, video and audio chat, collaboration and office tools, home automation, and of course cloud backup (not the paltry 128GB currently folded into the subscription package, but a separate pay-as-you-go solution with "unlimited" storage).
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#167Dockerized Nextcloud + Postfix + Dovecot + Strongswan + OpenLDAP + SpamAssassin running on an ARM machine. Sounds mostly alright, although it seems you cannot buy it without the $99/yearly subscription, which makes me wary. Sure, a static IP and domain registration is good, but it ought to be an optional addon.
Given that your paying Helm to handle all the PITA aspects of home servers, it seems reasonable to me. This is coming from someone who runs their own home infra in proxmox.
My only concern is the lack of offline backups. You should be able to backup to an external hard drive, and decrypt these backups (e.g. for migration to a "real" server) completely offline, without depending on support.
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I feel that the internet is doing the full circle again, mediated by rent seekers - 1. all IPs are the same, email for everyone 2. residential IPs cannot into email cause spam 3. consumers don't get into IPs anymore cause CGNAT 3. AWS collects all the other available IPs and rents them out 4. consumers can now get IPs again, rented from AWS 5. ... 6. profit !
Spot on. Elsewhere in the thread gsreenivas mentions that the solution is too expensive for spammers and so they haven't had a problem with that yet, so we've actually moved to the original solution to spam: charge for sending e-mail*. The original proposal was to charge per email but an annual subscription would have the same effect in the right market (for now.) * Wasn't it Bill Gates who suggested that?
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#170According to their blog post How Helm Works - Part 1: Networking [0], on the AWS side of things, for each Helm unit, they are provisioning an EC2 instance, an Elastic IP, and a Route 53 config. I suppose the 128GB backup is also part of this. From my perspective, $99/yr is not a bad deal for all this to be automatically managed. [0] https://blog.thehelm.com/post/how-helm-works-part-1-networki...