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Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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One of the biggest reasons why I like Google Photos is all the processing that it does on photos, especially some of the features that you have mentioned (object and face detection, location clustering, image filters, ...). Now to process these photos, you would need to read them and since you are end-to-end encrypted it's up to the clients to do this processing. Would some of these features even run on mobile device…

Sure. All of Apple's photo analysis is done on device.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…

> If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something.

Neither of those give you any privacy unless you do the encryption yourself in which case you have to build something to access them unencrypted. Have you checked out what the service actually does?

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Hey, we do need some information to get the product to work well. You can see the bits of information we collect, along with the reasoning here: https://ente.io/privacy/#account-data

> Browser type and operating system of the devices from which you have logged in to ente to ensure account security. I can't imagine how that information could be used to stop an attack that otherwise would succeed. Is this just so that you can say "Your last login was from Safari on an iPhone" to the user to reassure them their password hasn't been stolen (or the attacker has correctly guessed the most popular brows…

In addition to ensuring account security, we were collecting the user-agent to transform API responses depending on the client.

But your point is valid. Just the operating system and app version is enough to derive this information. We will make this change and update our privacy policy.

Thanks for bringing this up!

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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post #49

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Well, depending on legislation, they could be ordered to change the code to send the user password to them on next login for that account and then decrypt everything…

The architecture of Ente ( https://ente.io/architecture ) prevents your unencrypted master key from being exposed to the server. The password authentication appears to be client-side, which means that the data could not be compromised solely by a malicious server-side change. Now, Ente could still change its web application to somehow leak the master key and not disclose the changes in the source repo. One solution f…

There are a couple of other ways to mitigate the problem for web applications. If you're willing to install a browser extension, then it might make more sense to use the Signed Pages extension[0] which applies PGP signature checking to web pages. The other solution is to use Secure Bookmarks[1], which combine SRI integrity hashes with Data URIs to ensure that a fixed bundle of JavaScript is running in the page.

[0] https://github.com/tasn/webext-signed-pages

[1] https://coins.github.io/secure-bookmark/

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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I’d love for something like this to exist (a fast, clean, well-designed mobile and desktop app for backing up my photos with E2E), but I’d only switch from one of the big providers if it were FOSS and I can bring my own backend target (e.g. S3, SMB, FTP). In a perfect scenario I could generate my own private key to plug into my client devices and just have everything push to private S3 (and then from there archive to…

+1 for custom storage target

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Very interested in this. She questions:

How does one migrate to this from Google photos?

How does one share across the family?

Is it possible to have a local backup (e.g. on my desktop) in case something goes wrong?

What are plans for features beyond just storing photos (categorizing, tagging, labelling, albums, comments/notes, geotags, stories, etc.)?

What's the pricing?

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#137
post #92

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The software with these features is called Synology Moments. I use it and I mostly love it, at the very least as a backup for my Google Photos. My experience is that it works great, provided that you're on your local network. When away from home or traveling, less so. Maybe I could configure things better to alleviate that, I don't know, but I haven't managed to yet. Sharing is less convenient. Trying to share a phot…

For at-home NAS, is Synology the best for recreating Google services?

It's the best I've found so far. They have a number of apps (docs, drive, moments, etc), and I wouldn't say they are as good as Google right now, but they are quite workable.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…

I don't want Google at all in my life, so I think this product seems very attractive. But of course it depends on the user, what they value.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#139
Please please support custom storage back ends, I'd love to use my Dropbox or S3 or whatever to still fully own my pictures. And I'd love to pay extra to opt out of and analysis, tagging, etc of my photos. Basically I'd like the interface to be similar to Google Photos but with a privacy focused storage engine and clients.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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post #70

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Since OP seems to be from Kerala it might be in Malayalam."ente" in Malayalam(Language of Kerala) means "mine".

This! Also, I've a thing for rubber ducks. Also, the domain was available. :)

hey, fellow keralite here.. good domain and good luck!
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