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Post by brigandish »

zibzab wrote: post #211
throwaway0a5e wrote: post #165

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>But it has an open discussion I wouldn't call any discussion where wrongthink gets you excluded to be open. With Reddit's voting mechanism there's really no great need to censor anything unpopular since the system fudges consensus and anything that even the slightest subset of users finds disagreeable winds up downvoted into oblivion unless there's an equally large subset voting for it.

I personally want open discussion within boundaries. So does the law. Regarding the rest, do you realise that HN is worse in this regard since the flag mechanism can be abused by much fewer participants?

> I personally want open discussion within boundaries. So does the law.

The Taliban want discussion within boundaries, so does the law. It's a valid statement yet provides no insight into whether those boundaries are the same or even of the same category.

Would you support Reddit, as an American company, setting its boundaries for speech to the same limits as American law?

I doubt it.

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Post by sk2020 »

edgyquant wrote: post #276
sk2020 wrote: post #263

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I wish more people shared this opinion. There are many Reddit alternatives, which would all improve with wider adoption. As a technical problem, it’s a solved one, and there are some pleasant options.

What are some of these alternatives that aren't overrun with extreme right wing opinions? I've been looking for one as I quit reddit a few months ago.

Lemmy, assuming it’s not still vaporware, is curated by an actual “I think Castro was good” communist.

If you want a leftist Reddit, then I would advise you to consider Reddit.

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Post by fnord77 »

josephwegner wrote: post #54
fnord77 wrote: post #8

I wish there were more transparency in who the moderators of news and political subs, what their day jobs are and who pays them.

This could only happen if Reddit actually took some responsibility for the safety of their moderators. Death threats are commonplace for mods of political subs. They're mostly empty threats, but it'd be a much more significant risk if names/employers were public.

this is a good point

I didn't realize mods were subject to so much abuse.

I wonder if the death threats would vanish if the users were not anonymous, either.

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Post by rowanG077 »

bart__ wrote: post #281
rowanG077 wrote: post #251

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The reason I'm shadowbanned is because I replied to someone who was describing every "FVD" voter as egotistical nazi fascists, that this opinion was toxic, helping no one and he should consider why people actually vote for them. This was just after they won or nearly won some part of an election. I think I'm still shadowbanned for, I think, quite a reasonable comment. Besides I think you cannot compare shadow banning…

I always wondered why /r/thenetherlands was so left and (very?) progressive and I never saw any comments giving counter weight. But now I know the mods are so quick to shadowban I am not sure I should even bother with the subreddit anymore, it's mostly bullshit anyway.

I didn't know either. I just thought it was because reddit in general is quite left leaning. But the post above triggered me. I just thought I was the unlucky target of a mod with a bad day. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

supperburg wrote: post #119
krono wrote: post #16

There's a network of Dutch subreddits, 99% of which are managed by the same clique of mods. Recently I noticed comments I had posted in those subs over the last few months had completely been ignored. It turns out I have been shadowbanned, and not just on the primary /r/thenetherlands sub, but on every single one of the communities they manage. There is no apparent reason for them to have done this to me. My messages…

This is the most un-dutch thing I’ve ever heard of. How could actual dutch people behave like that?

> How could actual dutch people behave like that?

"The Netherlands as a narcostate and the emergence of a methamphetamine industry" - https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/field-report-netherlan...

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Post by javagram »

defaultprimate wrote: post #129
jon-wood wrote: post #103

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That's also considered unacceptable, and the reason variants are now assigned sequential names from the phonetic alphabet, hence "Delta Variant".

Zika Ebola Lyme MERS West Nile Virus Marburg Virus Guinea Worm German Measles Ross River Fever Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever Norovirus Or for a complete list of thousands, simply look up toponymic diseases

2015: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/05/discovered-disease-w...

> The World Health Organization (WHO) mostly works to reduce the physical toll of disease. But last week it turned to another kind of harm: the insult and stigma inflicted by diseases named for people, places, and animals. Among the existing monikers that its new guidelines “for the Naming of New Human Infectious Diseases” would discourage: Ebola, swine flu, Rift Valley Fever, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, and monkey pox.

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

jaytaylor wrote: post #258
exhilaration wrote: post #220

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I will not engage in a community that shadow-ban people even if they have inflammatory or abusive behavior I just wanted to point out that hacker news shadow bans...

I don't think Dang et al. use it except in cases where the person is being flagrantly abusive and unreasonable.

> I don't think Dang et al. use it except in cases where the person is being flagrantly abusive and unreasonable.

You'll change your tune when it happens to you.

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Post by deorder »

rhaksw wrote: post #294
asutekku wrote: post #19

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That screenshot is from /pol/ so I'm curious if the complaints about "censorship" were that people couldn't call it a china flu.

I remember seeing links to reveddit, a site I made, over this. A competing subreddit claimed censorship [1] by posting low-res screenshots of removed posts [2]. It was just a way to drum up support for their own subreddit. The screenshots were misleading because every subreddit with any history has tons of removed posts, and that's the default view on reveddit. I'm 99% sure most users understood this right away thoug…

Do you think Wuhan_Flu (the creator/mods) had/has bad intentions? At the time it was one of the few subs where you could talk about things you couldn't talk about in other subs (info leaking out from China regarding the virus). That sub was quarantined for spreading misinformation and fearmongering which someone at /r/OutOfTheLoop summarized as:

> The users of that subreddit believe in a conspiracy that the Wuhan Coronavirus is more serious than the governments of China and the United States are telling them. They believe the government is mismanaging the outbreak. They were quarantined because an admin believed the subreddit was spreading misinformation.

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Post by rhaksw »

deorder wrote: post #308
rhaksw wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember seeing links to reveddit, a site I made, over this. A competing subreddit claimed censorship [1] by posting low-res screenshots of removed posts [2]. It was just a way to drum up support for their own subreddit. The screenshots were misleading because every subreddit with any history has tons of removed posts, and that's the default view on reveddit. I'm 99% sure most users understood this right away thoug…

Do you think Wuhan_Flu (the creator/mods) had/has bad intentions? At the time it was one of the few subs where you could talk about things you couldn't talk about in other subs (info leaking out from China regarding the virus). That sub was quarantined for spreading misinformation and fearmongering which someone at /r/OutOfTheLoop summarized as: > The users of that subreddit believe in a conspiracy that the Wuhan Cor…

They may well have believed what they shared. In this case, other subs were not removing more content, despite the claims [1], and it was simple to verify.

[1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7jqbx/reddit-cant-quarantin...

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Post by deorder »

rhaksw wrote: post #309
deorder wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think Wuhan_Flu (the creator/mods) had/has bad intentions? At the time it was one of the few subs where you could talk about things you couldn't talk about in other subs (info leaking out from China regarding the virus). That sub was quarantined for spreading misinformation and fearmongering which someone at /r/OutOfTheLoop summarized as: > The users of that subreddit believe in a conspiracy that the Wuhan Cor…

They may well have believed what they shared. In this case, other subs were not removing more content, despite the claims [1], and it was simple to verify. [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7jqbx/reddit-cant-quarantin...

Thank you. Really appreciate your input. I did read that Vice article before and recently shared it here as well.

From what I remember at the time /r/coronavirus and /r/china_flu removed any discussion about "leaks" (or were they?) from China. On the other hand, not all the "leaks" discussed in /r/Wuhan_Flu turned out to be what they seemed (videos of people "dropping dead" on the streets etc.).

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