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Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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Post by rowanG077 »

jeroenhd wrote: post #233
rowanG077 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. The dutch subreddit mods will ban anyone that doesn't align with them on tiny things. So if you want to keep contributing to that community you must swim with the majority or they will ban you.

I often go against the flow in thenetherlands and I haven't gotten banned. You get downvoted to oblivion if you dare go against the progressive, young, left-leaning narrative of the sub, but the same is true on any network. I don't think the "tiny things" will get you banned from the Dutch subreddits, though; it's mostly broad strokes (just post that you've considered voting on one of the "wrong" parties once and you…

The reason I'm shadowbanned is because I replied to someone who was describing every "FVD" voter as egotistical nazi fascists, that this opinion was toxic, helping no one and he should consider why people actually vote for them. This was just after they won or nearly won some part of an election. I think I'm still shadowbanned for, I think, quite a reasonable comment.

Besides I think you cannot compare shadow banning, banning and down voting at all. Shadow banning should only be reserved for spam. Banning for obvious trolls. If you get down voted that's fine. It only shows your views don't align well with the group majority.

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Post by EForEndeavour »

qmmmur wrote: post #21
klausjensen wrote: post #18

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I didn't recognize the name, so I looked it up (so you don't have to). "Ghislaine Maxwell...known for her association with financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell

Astonishing that you didn't know, unless you live under a rock. I applaud you if you manage to escape the news cycle that long.

Maybe they're one of today's lucky 10,000. https://xkcd.com/1053/

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Post by mdp2021 »

echopurity wrote: post #210

Most of the "free and open" internet is centrally controlled. HN quickly shadow bans anybody who goes against the dominant ideology.

I don't think my ideas are uncontroversial, but for the small amount of time I have been in these pages I have found a good deal of respect.

Is it possible that the ban trigger was in the way of expression of said ideas?

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Post by swebs »

deorder wrote: post #5

Same with the coronavirus related subs last year: https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1582202873483.jpg It was discovered and some of the mods removed themselves. Honestly I just think they go by another name.

Links on 4chan's CDN tend to get pruned a few hours after the thread dies. Here's an archive of your image:

https://archive.is/4RJwu/6ec51706a8b44347b50d6ee38cc56191a7d...

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Post by brigandish »

zibzab wrote: post #124
brigandish wrote: post #115

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It sounds like they dissent from those opinions and you don't so you're fine with it and they're not. As Chomsky said "Everyone is in favour of freedom of speech for speech they agree with". Since I'm quoting people, J.S. Mill wrote down what the problem is for all of us when this happens: > If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justi…

You are reading this completely wrong! I don't agree with much of the discussion on r/sweden. But it has an open discussion without any bullying or hate speech. There are other subs that promote hate and ban everyone not agreeing with their narrative. What do you feel about them?

> There are other subs that promote hate and ban everyone not agreeing with their narrative. What do you feel about them?

It is your opinion that they promote hate, and you also assume that it being hateful is wrong. Mixing up opinion with fact and not checking your assumptions is a sure route to a belief in infallability, which Mill also warns against.

I am against (in general) bans for simple disagreement, but there is more than one way to silence those you disagree with, especially if you have power over media of communication as these mods and admins do.

> You are reading this completely wrong!

That may be so but you are working hard to give me the impression that you have a tendency to mix up your opinions with facts. If not for the need to avoid irony, at least avoid this so you don't appear so rude.

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Post by caslon »

k4c9x wrote: post #204
pembrook wrote: post #99

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Somehow I doubt a 60 year old woman with the job title of “socialite” accumulated 15 million karma on Reddit. Call me crazy.

Would you have guessed a 60 year old woman with the job title of “socialite” would be involved in sex trafficking? No matter who it is, I'd like to know what reason someone might have to abandon 15 million karma.

Actually, yeah. The wealthy have always been blamed for pedophile rings, and in places like England, they've gone out of their way to propagate them. People with the job title of "socialite" absolutely do a lot of sex trafficking. Not all of them, but as a whole the group is tremendously guilty.

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Post by chansiky »

swiley wrote: post #15

You'll be happier if you just don't use Reddit.

This article isn't about "you" though. Its about the average joe who does. All the censorship and radicalism we're seeing in real life is because of these wierdos who do nothing but spend their entire existence commenting and accumulating internet reputation - then turning it around to silence any opinions that disagrees with them.

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Post by jaytaylor »

exhilaration wrote: post #220
arepublicadoceu wrote: post #218

Funnily enough, I was shadowbanned from the only community in reddit that I was active and cared about (/r/firefox) after respectfully complaining about the redesign in 2 different posts. Maybe there's a threshold of how many times we're allowed to complain over there? This was my first shadowban and teached me: a) It's not worth to invest time in these communities. b) To be shadow-banned is extremely insulting, espe…

I will not engage in a community that shadow-ban people even if they have inflammatory or abusive behavior I just wanted to point out that hacker news shadow bans...

I don't think Dang et al. use it except in cases where the person is being flagrantly abusive and unreasonable.

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Post by zibzab »

ecmascript wrote: post #246
zibzab wrote: post #90

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Not sure what your issue is. I find r/sweden pretty okay, not perfect but tolerable. They don't allow outright hate speech which is btw illegal anyway. Misinformation is usually not deleted but often called out and down voted by members. I am 100% okay with that. r/sverige on the other hand is run by a really angry uncle who probably doesn't like most people. r/okpolarncp is basically incels and nazis. It is too prom…

Hate speech is not illegal in Sweden, but ok. They have, at least when I used to be a regular, deleted tons and tons of threads because they had an political incorrect opinion stated. They banned a lot of users for no real reason and revamped the rules many times in order to silence peoples opinions that were widespread on the sub. Now afaik there is only people like themselves (and presumably yourself) left, I wonde…

> Hate speech is not illegal in Sweden, but ok.

Not ok:

https://lagen.nu/1962:700#K16P8S2

> because they had an political incorrect opinion

After complaining some years ago, the mod team was rearranged and now contains people from a wide political spectrum.

> specific political opinions and removed a lot of subs that I was subscribed to

Maybe Reddit is not your private echo chamber and resits your extreme ideas?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communi...

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Post by BizarroLand »

zibzab wrote: post #200
1_2__5 wrote: post #197

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The level of hateful, spiteful, and bitter disdain I see in comments across all of Reddit have led me to believe it’s not just popular subs and it’s not even just Reddit: this is where the younger generations in America are right now, emotionally. People are looking for someone or something to judge and hate. It’s not limited to any particular political cohort or socioeconomic strata either. I see it here on HN quite…

Or... maybe that's how we will become if we are constantly fed this type of content ?

There is also the lingering effects of the eternal September, with fresh and impressionable new blood being constantly poured into the online communities. It's much easier to radicalize a 13 year old than a 30 year old.

Not that it's impossible to radicalize a 30 year old, just that the less experience you've had in life the more mentally malleable you are.

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