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Rapid sinicization efforts in Tibet & XJ will probably be wildly "successful". There is increasing demand for models that can rapidly integrate minorities globally. The Tibet template will be emulated, but _poorly_ around the world. Emphasis on "poorly", the cost of propping up of restive regions and TINY* minorities with massive infrastructure, a variety of subsidies to artificially inflate GDP and drive up living s…
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>>"...seen blatant external interference in China’s internal affairs related to Xinjiang..., Tibet..., Hong Kong...." Yup, classic disinformation method - just assume the conclusion and blame someone else. The reason that othet nations have something to say about it is that CCP is blatantly overstepping their rights in those regions. CCP is an invader, not the rightful ruler. They're starting the same incrementalism…
They know all they have to do is wait. The Western countries will tire and move on to something else. I was in physics graduate school in the ‘80s, when there was still activism in support of Tibet. I had a “Free Tibet” poster next to my desk. A graduate student arrived from China. I don’t remember how the conversation started, but I do remember him patiently trying to correct a group of other students, explaining th…
The sad part about it is that it tends to work, and the CCP does have both the malevolence and patience.
And sadly, the rest of the world sees it in their short term interest to do business with that monstrous criminal gang masquerading as a government.
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I appreciate that you took the time to elaborate in length, but that's a lot of hand-waving in here. I think it would be much more in the spirit of HN to make shorter but source-backed statements.
Yep, I wished I can escape from my boring programming job writing C++ code, and work full-time on historical study and political research into modern history of China and its interactions of the world. This is the best I can do. And for the most part, I am showing the rationale behind a typical Chinese person might think about the western views, and some of the historical basis. Backed by some form of limited persona…
The don't hold up to the mildest scrutiny, but they seem to suffice for most of the indoctrinated or those who choose to look the other way.
What is particularly galling is to claim that on the basis of some ancient ancestral claim of dynastic emperorship, land X belonged to some supposed ancestors, and was lost for centuries, it is now somehow right to claim it again, as if it was legit to begin with...
anyway, thx for the thoughtful response
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Please don't break the site guidelines like this. The boring null hypothesis—that people simply have different backgrounds and views on a large internet forum—is more than enough to explain what goes on in these threads. Cheaply labelling others "bots" because you have a different background and view from them is poison to community and therefore not allowed here. As the guidelines say, if you're worried about abuse,…
You are wrong dang. Why is this 100% simple factual post citing an internationally very prominent Chinese government official with an nytimes link -2? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28319070 This post referring to the internationally condemned repression in xinjiang with an Atlantic link is also bizarrely downvoted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318465 Another: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318…
I've explained all this countless times and have spent god knows how many hours poring over the data on all this. If you or anyone wants to read more, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725. There's plenty more at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... if you scroll back to find them. Ditto at https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme....
Bottom line: the evidence could not be clearer, no matter how strongly internet warriors feel urges to project sinister fantasies onto their tribal enemies. That's against the site guidelines for good reason, well established over many years, so please stop.
https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…
I believe the CCP is encouraging Han to move there until the Tibetans are no longer the majority. They may have already accomplished this, as an accurate census is hard to find.
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I know they have the capability, I'm just skeptical use it on HN. I would think they'd focus on places with more reach (e.g. Twitter, Facebook, maybe Reddit) and places were they could have more control (e.g. fake blogs, fake think tanks, websites that peddle conspiracy theories).
I'm sure the larger platforms do have more focus, although that isn't mutually exclusive with the notion that resources are still allocated to HN. The mandate of these units probably dictates they go wherever the discussion happens to be, especially if that discussion runs contrary to the objectives of the unit's host country. Anecdotally, I've never experienced more rapid, clustered downvotes than in these threads.…
1. Downvotes shouldn't matter to you.
2. I doubt downvotes matter to the 50 cent parties and disinformation trolls of the world, either, if only because a downvote provides so little payoff.
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You are wrong dang. Why is this 100% simple factual post citing an internationally very prominent Chinese government official with an nytimes link -2? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28319070 This post referring to the internationally condemned repression in xinjiang with an Atlantic link is also bizarrely downvoted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318465 Another: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318…
It's normal for HN comments to get downvoted when they tediously repeat flamewar talking points which everyone has heard many times. This is not a site for nationalistic flamewar, ideological flamewar, or any other flamewar. Downvotes are an inevitable and appropriate response. The idea that it must be spies, foreign agents, bots, shills, astroturfers, or who knows what else is a fantasy people invent for themselves,…
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Lots of places have had 2000 years of continuous civilization that don't keep finding maps that serve as a pretext for expansion.
I was just joking... HN now is just a conflicting bickering online forum... And most of all, information sharing are no longer appreciated here...
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You are wrong dang. Why is this 100% simple factual post citing an internationally very prominent Chinese government official with an nytimes link -2? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28319070 This post referring to the internationally condemned repression in xinjiang with an Atlantic link is also bizarrely downvoted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318465 Another: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318…
It's normal for HN comments to get downvoted when they tediously repeat flamewar talking points which everyone has heard many times. This is not a site for nationalistic flamewar, ideological flamewar, or any other flamewar. Downvotes are an inevitable and appropriate response. The idea that it must be spies, foreign agents, bots, shills, astroturfers, or who knows what else is a fantasy people invent for themselves,…
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Yep, I wished I can escape from my boring programming job writing C++ code, and work full-time on historical study and political research into modern history of China and its interactions of the world. This is the best I can do. And for the most part, I am showing the rationale behind a typical Chinese person might think about the western views, and some of the historical basis. Backed by some form of limited persona…
In my western education, I was taught not to trust my government. I'm glad I can write these words without fear of jail. Some of the passages you shared sounds a lot like propaganda. Here are those: > Invasion was labeled liberation. If you look at the economy and production level of Tibet before CCP's invasion, certainly CCP have brought modern production means and built a much better economy in Tibet. You're compar…