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So many bots in this thread, down voting everything that is anti china - be it true or false. Very curious to see that not even HN is safe from them.
Does it ever occur to you that someone can not want to jump on the "China bad!" train and not be a bot?
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It gets even more complex when you look at the history. The Yuan dynasty were ruled by the Mongolians. The Mongolians were devout Buddhists and revered the Tibetan Buddhists. The search for reincarnated Tulkas by the Tibetan Buddhists would extend into the Mongolian regions. The imperial family gave a lot of autonomy to Tibet. The last Imperial dynasty, Qing, was ruled by Manchurians. The Manchurians were a foreign,…
> I could also talk about the many ethnic groups in Napal and Himalayan regions, from which the Tibetan Buddhists assimilated many of the shamanic traditions of the region. From those Himalayan shamans perspective, the "lamaists" ganked their traditions and practiced them for the betterment of themselves rather than the betterment of the community. Even if this is true, it doesn't make what CCP is doing there right.…
See the current plight of the Native Americans for what I fear will be the template for decades to come with other minorities.
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*Let me shed some light on the CCP's propaganda, and explain a bit why your statements might meet a deaf ear.* I present this to showcase the rationale behind many pro-China netizens living in China (both ethnic Chinese and non-Chinese). Note that I could not give detailed references, because I am not a professional political scientists or historian, and I do not keep such records. Hopefully it opens a window for mor…
I appreciate that you took the time to elaborate in length, but that's a lot of hand-waving in here. I think it would be much more in the spirit of HN to make shorter but source-backed statements.
This is the best I can do. And for the most part, I am showing the rationale behind a typical Chinese person might think about the western views, and some of the historical basis. Backed by some form of limited personal experiences. For this purpose, I think despite being hand-waving, the purpose seems well-served.
Edit: Hey guys, read the post, this is literally the first sentence in the post:
``` Let me shed some light on the CCP's propaganda ```
I am showing how the propaganda's effects look like... I am not advancing the argument... Stop arguing with me...
China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…
Factually incorrect. It is the opposite. Quite many ethnic groups had more right than the Han majority.
One example:
"The policy also allowed exceptions for some other groups, including ethnic minorities."
https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…
The hegemon gets to choose the semantics I suppose.
https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…
I believe the CCP is encouraging Han to move there until the Tibetans are no longer the majority. They may have already accomplished this, as an accurate census is hard to find.
In the countryside I'm sure it's not like this but it was quite sad.
You can't even blame Han Chinese who move there. They are fed propaganda by the central government and are given financial incentives to move there.
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I hope that the Taliban's 1 week takeover of the Afghanistan opens people's eyes as to how little Westerners understand what residents of developing countries perceive to be good or evil.
Oh, their presence there was definitely ill thought; so was destabilising it during cold war through the same means that bit them back. For this, tough action for them and their allies did make sense just like it does for CCP at this point.
But why? Would you still support this if the punishment cost you your job? Meanwhile, does this disincentivize the CIA from stirring conflict in another region? I think that biggest weakness with American foreign policy is that it's incapable of distinguishing between geopolitical interests and humanitarian interests. As a result, we aren't particularly good at advancing either.
Lots of seemingly unwarranted gray comments in this thread.
China is a superpower. Superpowers have units dedicated to information warfare. Some of these units deal with controlling discourse and sentiment. HN is a fairly prominent public forum within the tech industry. China wants global influence, particular in the technology sector.
It's reasonable to assume they probably have some fairly clever downvote rings here that are well hidden.
You can read about this any number of places including https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/ch...