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CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by neverywhere »

uniqueuid wrote: post #17
neverywhere wrote: post #12

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…

These arguments are not unknown in the discourse in western media, but it's always good to fact-check. Do you have any report or data on these at hand? I'd expect amnesty international for example to have complied info on such cases.

AP News article on birth suppression: https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-we...

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Post by utunbu »

neverywhere wrote: post #12

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…

> birth control

If you're referring to the now-obsolete one-child policy, IIRC, they do this to all ethnicity. The ethnic minority usually got more slack when the government enforced this policy.

> family separation

Mind elaborate a bit?

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by mc32 »

neverywhere wrote: post #12

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…

The reason companies and celebrities on Twitter don’t denounce (as they would if this were happening in Israel or Italy), is that one, it would impact earnings and two, they hold China as different enough that they’re different and they can do different things and we won’t be too bothered by it.

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Post by Quillbert182 »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #6
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #5

https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…

So, native Americans?

Native Americans are not unified by language and religion. They have a wide variety of both of these things.

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Post by uniqueuid »

neverywhere wrote: post #21
uniqueuid wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These arguments are not unknown in the discourse in western media, but it's always good to fact-check. Do you have any report or data on these at hand? I'd expect amnesty international for example to have complied info on such cases.

AP News article on birth suppression: https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-we...

Thanks, this looks really well-researched!

"an AP investigation based on government statistics, state documents and interviews with 30 ex-detainees, family members and a former detention camp instructor. "

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Post by swiley »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #6
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #5

https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…

So, native Americans?

I have yet to meet someone IRL who thinks what was done to native Americans was just and also condemns the CCP for their treatment of minorities.

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Post by majormajor »

mesh wrote: post #7
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, native Americans?

Native Americans represent 1.7% of the US population: https://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/omh/browse.aspx?lvl=3&lvlid=6...

What percentage of the population of the land that is now the US did they represent when Europeans first started colonies there?

From the CCP's perspective, would a similar decline in percentage be desirable?

From our historical view of the US, are the actions that got us here praiseworthy?

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Post by stuaxo »

RHSeeger wrote: post #10
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, native Americans?

Native Americans are not the majority in the Americas, outside of reservations. So if you meant "Native Americans on a Native American reservation", then I guess so... but I don't think they're considered a minority in that context, are there?

They clearly were in at one point, which is why the situation is comparable.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by uniqueuid »

utunbu wrote: post #22
neverywhere wrote: post #12

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…

> birth control If you're referring to the now-obsolete one-child policy, IIRC, they do this to all ethnicity. The ethnic minority usually got more slack when the government enforced this policy. > family separation Mind elaborate a bit?

He's referring to the forced/coerced use of IUDs, which are technically birth control.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by neverywhere »

utunbu wrote: post #22
neverywhere wrote: post #12

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…

> birth control If you're referring to the now-obsolete one-child policy, IIRC, they do this to all ethnicity. The ethnic minority usually got more slack when the government enforced this policy. > family separation Mind elaborate a bit?

I was referring to this: https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-we...
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