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CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by throwawaysea »

Really sad to see Tibet under CCP control. It would be much preferable if the region were an autonomous province of India, with whom Tibet has cultural affinity. Note that the real Dalai Lama has had to live in exile for decades in India, while seeing his people get slowly indoctrinated by the Chinese government via various education programs and such (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Dalai_Lama).

The word people need to learn is “Sinicization”, which describes the programs that implement a slow takeover and indoctrination of an entire people - effectively a cultural genocide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization_of_Tibet

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Post by neverywhere »

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country.

They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group.

When this was done elsewhere it was declared as the worst form of racism/ethnocide/genocide, but in China it is accepted standard practice.

Imagine in Donald Trump wanted non-whites to be forced on birth control in the US or if Israel wanted its Arab population on birth control -- there would be uproars and rightly so. But somehow China is getting away with this behaviour towards its ethnic minorities.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by utunbu »

mesh wrote: post #7
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, native Americans?

Native Americans represent 1.7% of the US population: https://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/omh/browse.aspx?lvl=3&lvlid=6...

Tibetan people represent 0.4% of the Chinese population: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_people

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by toss1 »

justicezyx wrote: post #2

I'd like to read the detailed summary of CCP's policy and effects in Tibet. I was born and grew up in China's Shanxi province, got college degree in Shanghai and masters in Beijing, all in top universities; which means that I was subject to constant indoctrination and massaged (or even fabricated) information all the time. There has never been detailed political reports on sensitive issues like managing Tibet. But I…

>>"...seen blatant external interference in China’s internal affairs related to Xinjiang..., Tibet..., Hong Kong...."

Yup, classic disinformation method - just assume the conclusion and blame someone else. The reason that othet nations have something to say about it is that CCP is blatantly overstepping their rights in those regions. CCP is an invader, not the rightful ruler. They're starting the same incrementalism over the 9-dashed-line, and even Taiwan.

Just because a nation invades, forcibly relocates, 'reeducates', and culturally overwhelms and erased a people does not make them the legitimate ruler, nor does it make foreign nations working to support the remaining rightful owners "interfering in the internal affairs" (&yes, I see that this also applies to the USA over Native American rights).

What was "interfering in internal affairs of another country" was CCP militarily overrunning Tibet, not the other way around.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by bpodgursky »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #6
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #5

https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…

So, native Americans?

Do you think the 17th-century treatment of Native Americans is a good template for the treatment of minority-majority populations?

I'd like to think we've gotten better.

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Post by uniqueuid »

neverywhere wrote: post #12

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…

These arguments are not unknown in the discourse in western media, but it's always good to fact-check. Do you have any report or data on these at hand? I'd expect amnesty international for example to have complied info on such cases.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by echelon »

utunbu wrote: post #14
mesh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Native Americans represent 1.7% of the US population: https://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/omh/browse.aspx?lvl=3&lvlid=6...

Tibetan people represent 0.4% of the Chinese population: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_people

Tibet isn't China. They got Crimea'd in the "Peaceful Liberation of Tibet"

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Post by colpabar »

neverywhere wrote: post #12

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…

>Imagine if Israel

You don't have to imagine.

https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-ethiopians-coerced-into-bir...

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