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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by lostlogin »

GordonS wrote: post #183
lostlogin wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is done for all items sold to consumers in New Zealand. A base MacBook is US $999 in the US and NZ $1749 in New Zealand, which is approximately US $1200. Your maths checks out. The tiny market, currency fluctuations and long shipping route probably factor in the price too, but our legislation is surely the prime reason for the cost. I absolutely love the consumer guarantees act we have here, and the protection i…

I think you're forgetting VAT, which in NZ, I think, is 13%. Not sure if there are import tariffs/duties to account for too. Considering all these other costs, I reckon a 20% markup is great value for a 3-year warranty. Like others though, I really all Apple products globally should come with a 3-year warranty - you pay over the odds for Apple hardware, and should get high-quality, reliable kit in return.

I have missed tax differences.

In New Zealand you are getting a 3 year warranty and getting something guaranteed in return - and the extra price appears minimal once tax differences are included.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by inasio »

jppope wrote: post #146
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Apple is the master of planned obsolescence.

A bunch of people here are talking about having 2010-2015 Macs running, in contrast you don't see too many PC laptops of that vintage.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by tkiolp4 »

Anecdote: I bought my MBP 2015 model 15 inch in 2016. It’s my only laptop and still works like the first time (battery cycle: around 600/1000). Zero problems. Still on Catalina, though. I removed like half of the stock software that came with it (e.g., Garage band).

Having said this, I’m looking forward to the new MBP model coming this year.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by j1vms »

What might be interesting to consider is quality control in the various eras of Apple (e.g. 70/80s Steve Jobs, 80/90s Sculley, 2010s Cook).

Of course, keeping in mind that Cook-era Apple is operating on a more massive scale (product shipped, wider distribution, more product lines).

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by minhazm »

tehjoker wrote: post #175
Spivak wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. You're forgetting that that this is Apple. There would be an announcement that for new Macs you will be required to purchase 3 years of AppleCare+ to have the best possible experience. People will bitch for a few months but eventually it'll die down and Apple will get to market the current price as the base price while charing 30% more.

Hard to say. Apple is often able to release new products at insane price points, but to reprice existing products is more dicey, especially when laptops are one of their most expensive products on offer. I think you have something of a point: Apple products are mostly aimed at people with lots of disposable income, but raising the price still reduces the total addressable market size. The only way to know is to run t…

What Apple does is they make a new model or add a big feature to the latest model and drastically increase the price. You can see that with the iPhone X, the iPad Pro, and with the introduction of the retina macbook pro's, or even with the touchbars. Apple knows how to increase prices and keep the vast majority of their customer base.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by egypturnash »

DerekBickerton wrote: post #5

I looked at this person's homepage: https://pqvst.com/ Looks like they use their Mac a lot judging by all the projects they're working on. I have a strategy that is common to all hackers / nerds / technophiles and that is: having multiple devices for different things. It's common to see in hacker circles: This laptop is for gaming. This other laptop is for freelancing & business. My other laptop is for toying / tinke…

Do you... regularly carry around like six laptops, then? Even carrying two sounds like a hassle, my husband had to do that for a while due to a single stupid time clock app installed on a corporate laptop that was too locked down to get the rest of his work done on.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by digitallyfree »

DerekBickerton wrote: post #5

I looked at this person's homepage: https://pqvst.com/ Looks like they use their Mac a lot judging by all the projects they're working on. I have a strategy that is common to all hackers / nerds / technophiles and that is: having multiple devices for different things. It's common to see in hacker circles: This laptop is for gaming. This other laptop is for freelancing & business. My other laptop is for toying / tinke…

I use multiple devices, mostly desktops with varying specs. They run off the same Ubuntu master image, primarily use network storage, and are managed with Landscape for updates and so forth. Now there are times when I will need to use my GPU workstation, and others times where an old C2Q would suffice for web browsing. In general though, I can sit down on any machine and start working right away in a consistent enviroment.

Those machines are getting old, and I've been considering upgrading my server and using a VDI solution instead. Or maybe it's time to switch to a more mobile option...

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by konart »

robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Sometimes I feel like an alien with my late 2013 MBPr working all the same with the latest os.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by tehjoker »

minhazm wrote: post #265
tehjoker wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to say. Apple is often able to release new products at insane price points, but to reprice existing products is more dicey, especially when laptops are one of their most expensive products on offer. I think you have something of a point: Apple products are mostly aimed at people with lots of disposable income, but raising the price still reduces the total addressable market size. The only way to know is to run t…

What Apple does is they make a new model or add a big feature to the latest model and drastically increase the price. You can see that with the iPhone X, the iPad Pro, and with the introduction of the retina macbook pro's, or even with the touchbars. Apple knows how to increase prices and keep the vast majority of their customer base.

You're right, but the iPhone X is well below the price point of their Macbook Pros (closer to Macbook Airs though). Their flexibility is reduced the higher the absolute price point goes. At a certain point, people really can't spend that money.

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Post by [deleted] »

coldtea wrote: post #101
pier25 wrote: post #52

It's absolutely ridiculous that Macs don't come with a 3 year warranty by default. I've bought maybe a dozen macs in the last 15 years (for myself and the family) and while some have lasted many years without issues, some have died on me on the second or third year. Because the initial investment is so high you're practically forced to add extra Apple Care to protect it because there's a 20-30% chance you will have p…

> It's absolutely ridiculous that Macs don't come with a 3 year warranty by default. Government should mandate that, as in does in other countries. But many american consumers don't believe in government rules about consumer protection, lest some of this "innovation" we've witnessed is discouraged...

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