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My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#232As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…
I got an iPhone in 2008 and 2 years later an OS update rendered it too slow to be usable. It annoyed me so much that it became the last Apple product I ever bought. Every non-Apple smartphone I've had since then has remained usable until I was ready to replace it on my own timeline, even after as long as 4 years.
What non-Apple smartphone were you getting in 2010 that received 4 years of updates? My experience at the time was essentially no updates, or relying on custom ROMs for that sort of thing.
Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#233I have a gripe with every Macbook Pro I've owned, and I've owned 4 of them over the last 10 years. They all lag when I type. I hit a key, and it takes a while before it shows up on screen. The effect is at its worst in Safari, but it shows up most everywhere else as well. Sometimes, I'll type a few letters or even words before they start showing up. Doesn't matter if I wipe the machine and reinstall, and Apple has ne…
Wow. Full time Mac user with a very, very high typing speed (consistently tested at 90+ WPM), and I have never had a keyboard lag issue with a Mac. Sure, I've had piggy apps -- usually web apps -- create lags, but that's happened on lots of systems, not just Macs. If my Macs couldn't keep up with my typing, I'd have kicked them to the curb a LONG LONG LONG time ago.
I am quite a bit above 90 wpm. Almost exactly double for sustained (1 min+), and more than that for burst.
My theory is that the Intel macs generate too much heat for the chassis to handle (I'm currently on a 16" 2019), especially when being used by IntelliJ in projects with many files, having additional dev stuff running in the background, and with an external monitor connected.
Additionally, I perceive more lag on the Mac itself than on the external monitor, so I think there is a component that is due to the slow speed of the Macbook Pro display.
Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#234As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…
You have to poke around but there are ways to disable the update badges and checks, eg:
defaults delete com.apple.preferences.softwareupdate LatestMajorOSSeenByUserBundleIdentifier && softwareupdate --list
Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's absolutely ridiculous that Macs don't come with a 3 year warranty by default. Government should mandate that, as in does in other countries. But many american consumers don't believe in government rules about consumer protection, lest some of this "innovation" we've witnessed is discouraged...
I doubt everyone would want to pay the extra 20-30% more that Apple would charge to cover this.
That can easily be fixed if they're also kept on a watch by legislators and consumer rights groups for pulling such shit up (as opposed to sucking up the cost)...
In the EU, where a longer guarantee is mandaded, state tax aside, the prices aren't that different. MacBook Air $999 US (849 €) vs 1129 € France. Of that 188 € is the state tax (VAT), which means the price difference as far as Apple pockets is 1129-188 - 849 = $92 or $108 dollars.
So that $999 would be say $1109, a 11% increase, hardly 20-30%.
(And that's not even counting the higher cost of business in Europe aside the VAT, which also factors in that 1129-188 price).
Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
My experience with Dell laptops seems to match up with your experience on the MBP. If something is going to fail, it will usually fail immediately or last the "lifetime" of the device. Batteries being the main exception as those age out fast ..
I'm actually becoming a fan of factory refurbished for these same reasons. I'd rather have something that's been shaken down, repaired for the problems that appeared, recertified, and shipped back out.
Depends on the manufacturer. I've had good luck with Dell's refurbs and outlet store over the years.
On the other hand I bought a refurb projector from BenQ and it was straight up junk. The focusing mechanism breaks easily. It's quite clear this is a design flaw, I assume a gear that's weak plastic that should be something more durable instead. I've sent it back twice now to have it fixed, paying shipping each time under their terms. The last time I got it back it died with just 15 hours of use. It's clear they knew this thing was a straight up lemon and just used their refurb program to dump the product. It certainly means I'll never touch another BenQ product so long as I live.
Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#237VERY misleading headline. The article makes clear all the costs were covered by AppleCare, so the story here is (a) he got a lemon, which happens in literally every product category and (b) the vendor stood behind the product and took care of him. So I'm honestly not sure what the point of this post is. The only laptops I've had that have handled the high-travel workload I traditionally subjected mine to remotely as…
My take is that the article is about this person's reliability issues with their MBP. Regardless of which party actually paid for the repairs, the fact that so many repairs/replacements were required doesn't speak well for Apple.
Well, at least Apple took care of that person.
That is a way better experience than many of us who had the infamous early-2011 15" MBP with overheating issues had.
Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#238As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…
Apple is the master of planned obsolescence.
I don't know how you can say this after looking at the state of android. Beyond that, my macbooks have _vastly_ outlived any Windows laptop I've ever owned.
Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#239I looked at this person's homepage: https://pqvst.com/ Looks like they use their Mac a lot judging by all the projects they're working on. I have a strategy that is common to all hackers / nerds / technophiles and that is: having multiple devices for different things. It's common to see in hacker circles: This laptop is for gaming. This other laptop is for freelancing & business. My other laptop is for toying / tinke…
I don't want to yuck anyone's yum but the thought of maintaining, keeping charged, finding room for and managing data on so many computers sounds like a nightmare to me.
Even just keeping software updates, backups, and your personal data up to date on both a laptop and a desktop can be frustrating. Two Macs could be doable because of the level of syncing that iCloud provides, but I'd probably still need Screen Sharing every once in a while!
Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs
#240Empirically, the 2016–2020 MacBook Pros seem to be relatively unreliable. My 2016 would frequently have wake-from-sleep problems, occasional kernel panics, and fried its logic board with a pop after about 3 years. My 2019 thermal-throttles every day, kernel panics a few times a month, and has a battery that just gives up under load. Meanwhile my 2019 Mac Pro (tower) is probably the most rock-solid reliable computer I…
Agreed... 2019 MBP here and the touchbar went toast in less than a year. At this point I'll never purchase an Apple product for personal use unless my hands are tied.