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My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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I looked at this person's homepage: https://pqvst.com/ Looks like they use their Mac a lot judging by all the projects they're working on. I have a strategy that is common to all hackers / nerds / technophiles and that is: having multiple devices for different things. It's common to see in hacker circles: This laptop is for gaming. This other laptop is for freelancing & business. My other laptop is for toying / tinke…

Ah, the Mythical Macbook Month.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Damn, and I thought I've had to take my 13" 2016 Pro in for a lot of repairs. There's a design flaw that makes it chew through batteries every 8-16 months and I just had to have a week-long involuntary vacation while they shipped it off to a repair center in another case, where the entire top half of the case got replaced for the third time. This is the most expensive Mac I've owned in like 18y of using the things, e…

I think its absurd that apple stopped doing a lot of repairs in store, but still doesn't offer you a loaner computer imaged from yours. Clearly, people are using these computers for work.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Apple is basically the BMW of computers at this point. it's a shame, it would be nice to go back to a point where there was more quality/durability inherent in the product.

2012 macbook pro is basically like an e30 series bmw. Completely workable with common tools. I've gone into this computer for repairs or hardware upgrades over the years a dozen times by now and thanks to its repairability and performance with updated components I am still using it today.

Interesting.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Retina+D...

"MacBook Pro with Retina Display 15" Mid 2012 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair)"

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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I have a 2018 Macbook Pro that had 1" of the touchbar stop working. I was quoted 1500 to replace it(did not have apple care as the 4 previous macbook pros never needed it) So I instead bought a new macbook pro and gave this one to my son. 6 months later the touchbar magically fixed itself... I really really really hate the touchbar.

If my touchbar stopped working, I don’t think I’d notice within three months. (I have a physical esc key.)

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, nope. It's perfectly fine and undamaged. I work remote a lot, coffee shops, cafes, coworking spaces, airplanes. So it moves a lot. No unusually high temperatures. I always use a soft case when I put it in my backpack for extra protection. Heat might be an issue though, especially if the laptop is hot and goes into my backpack directly. Maybe I should consider a Pelican case now that my APP has expired... and ma…

> especially if the laptop is hot and goes into my backpack directly. I'd found MANY times that simply closing one of the more recent MacBooks (2019?) would not actually put it to sleep. I would close it, put it in my bag, then... hours later, find it was overly hot, still running, perhaps with 10% battery left. 2008 MB, 2012 MBP, 2015 MBP - never ever had this problem. I'm sure I overheated my 2019 MBP far more ofte…

I have had this issue on my previous 2015 MBP, and haven't had it on the 2018 device I now use, for what it's worth. The 2015 would also wake up from sleep (presumably for updates?) while in my laptop bag, so I resorted to doing a full shut down at the end of a work day.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Empirically, the 2016–2020 MacBook Pros seem to be relatively unreliable. My 2016 would frequently have wake-from-sleep problems, occasional kernel panics, and fried its logic board with a pop after about 3 years. My 2019 thermal-throttles every day, kernel panics a few times a month, and has a battery that just gives up under load.

Meanwhile my 2019 Mac Pro (tower) is probably the most rock-solid reliable computer I've ever used. Months of uptime, never has sleep/wake problems, and only one kernel panic in the 1.5 years I've had it.

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Meanwhile my MacBook Pro from Touch wood - 2013 is still chugging along with the only issue a slightly reduced battery capacity. They don’t build ‘em like they used to.

I just replaced the battery myself in my 2012 macbook pro and I'm so happy with my battery life now, the replacement had a higher capacity than even the OEM (that apple no longer sells). A full charge with a top off during lunch lasts me a full day now. I've never seen this computer run for longer than three and a half hours, now it goes for double that.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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It's absolutely ridiculous that Macs don't come with a 3 year warranty by default. I've bought maybe a dozen macs in the last 15 years (for myself and the family) and while some have lasted many years without issues, some have died on me on the second or third year. Because the initial investment is so high you're practically forced to add extra Apple Care to protect it because there's a 20-30% chance you will have p…

> Because the initial investment is so high you're practically forced to add extra Apple Care to protect it because there's a 20-30% chance you will have problems during those first years.

Here's the inverse argument: it's absolutely ridiculous I have to pay 20-30% extra for my Macbook even though I don't care about the mandatory 3-year warranty. They should let me opt out for a discount!

Well, they do.

> you're practically forced to add extra Apple Care

Are you really pro-freedom (see argument above), or just anti-Apple?

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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The 2016 - 2020 Macbook Pros have been lemons, especially the 2016 - 2019 years

My 2018 had:

1) Catastrophic hardrive failure, just one month after the 1 year warranty. I lost everything (I had some back ups somewhere). This was a common issue with their controller, that failed, yet I still had to pay for it (later it was recalled).

2. Keyboard starting failing, with one shift key coming out completely, and some keys with registering repetitive/duplicate keystrokes and key fading. I had to buy an external keyboard to use with it, and carry i with me.

3. The battery completely failed. To the point that can't hold on more than 1min without shutting down without power, turning basically into a desktop. I bought an external battery (Anker), which is the only way I can use it outside.

I don't want to send my laptop to fix these issues, as they will take a week or two, and I need my computer for work.

I am waiting for the new redesigned macbook pro coming out, and I will buy that, and send this for repairs. (the keyboard had a recall, and a free repair).

I thinking with the m1 laptops Apple is turning the corner, but it is risking to become like Alfa Romeo, or Land Rover brand. Building beautiful machines, and with poor reliability and that break down randomly and expensive to maintain.

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