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Re: We Hire Old People

#31

Given the Principals only ask, this is interesting. There is something humble about asking for mentor, and this is something that I wish I had when I was younger. I wonder how far I could have gotten if I embraced asking for help sooner instead of just tinkering away and relearning old lessons.

It is meant to tell recruiters to go away. Principal in this case means direct applicants.

Re: We Hire Old People

#32

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What would you think is illegal about it? They make it clear that age is not an issue.

My thought is that it might be illegal to do consulting without your employer's approval in some places (like the US).

It can certainly be in violation of an employment contract. What makes you think it would be illegal though?

Re: We Hire Old People

#34
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Clickbait basically. I feel they would be better off going to GitHub and messaging people working on the type of projects they are looking for. I like the consulting part. Maybe they don't absolutely need an FTE and are keeping the option of having a part time consultant on the table.

> Clickbait basically. Not really, The "We Hire Old People" was just something the HN submitter picked. It's not the title of the original job posting.

It’s basically diversity hiring, which is an accepted hiring practice.

Re: We Hire Old People

#36
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I mean, they say outright they hire old people and they hire young people. So I think you can make the argument fairly easily that that group includes everyone and that they are not discriminating.

I don't think there is discrimination immediately evident. I think there are legal implications in actively soliciting contract work from people who currently work at other companies under full time contracts that may preclude them from doing stuff like that (ex: FAANG).

I don't think that is true. Any agreement you have with google/faang is your agreement and your punishment. You cannot bind others into the agreement. They face no legal implications.

Re: We Hire Old People

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What would you think is illegal about it? They make it clear that age is not an issue.

Many full time jobs include language preventing you from working a second job in a similar role.

I doubt the person they are searching for is currently in a similar role. They want domain specific knowledge about a stable and _old_ codebase. They want the person around as a teacher mentor, and the first gig is something the business needs but would prefer to sub out. Seems like a normal accepted practice when defined that way.

Re: We Hire Old People

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, they say outright they hire old people and they hire young people. So I think you can make the argument fairly easily that that group includes everyone and that they are not discriminating.

I don't think there is discrimination immediately evident. I think there are legal implications in actively soliciting contract work from people who currently work at other companies under full time contracts that may preclude them from doing stuff like that (ex: FAANG).

Why can’t I solicit work from all comers, trusting that they have the responsibility to ensure that they aren’t violating any contract that they’ve agreed to (without my knowledge)?

Re: We Hire Old People

#40

Define ‘old’. How young counts as old in tech these days?

A recruiter from a prominent SF / Silicon Valley tech headhunting firm once told me that 40 is the cutoff for individual contributors.

As a counterpoint, I know plenty of over-40 (and older!) wise software engineers working for places like Google. So maybe the discrimination is worse at someplace like Uber?

Personally, I value age diversity on a team, just as I value gender, ethnic, etc. diversity. The added perspectives benefit everyone!

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