Trashing is one thing ... but how long until a "guest" leaves behind some hidden cameras?
Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
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Re: Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've seen half a dozen replies from you saying she probably has a lawyer and is trying to milk this, without a shred of evidence, other than "that's what you would do." I think presenting that theory once is more than enough - you don't have to reply to everybody with your theory.
Again with the attempts to factionalize the discussion. "If you're not with her, you're against us!" It's weird. Why do you feel the need to take sides?
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Re: Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh? "Fishy"? Please stop talking like that. Neither Airbnb nor "EJ" owes us the complete objective retelling of exactly what has transpired between them. When "EJ" doesn't recount absolutely every fact that isn't completely favorable to her cause of action, that doesn't make her a crook. She isn't on trial, and you aren't a jury.
But the result is that Airbnb is taking a PR beating. So if EJ is intentionally misconstruing the facts (or Airbnb for that matter) it is important and relevant. Look, I'm not saying they [Airbnb] are doing everything right. But at the same time, the renters have got to take on some responsibility for handing out their keys to strangers; yes that's what you're doing, is that a surprise? This isn't all on EJ or all on…
No, it wasn't when the inquisition came, it was in response to the airbnb post. We've gone through this already, llambda. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2823714.
Re: Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've seen half a dozen replies from you saying she probably has a lawyer and is trying to milk this, without a shred of evidence, other than "that's what you would do." I think presenting that theory once is more than enough - you don't have to reply to everybody with your theory.
Again with the attempts to factionalize the discussion. "If you're not with her, you're against us!" It's weird. Why do you feel the need to take sides?
I don't see an attempt from the GP to factionalize the discussion, at least in the comment you replied to. But I do see an attempt from you to factualize it.
Re: Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
#165There is a deep ethical problem with starting or funding airbnb, in my opinion: The fraction of people with enough sophistication and resources to be good, safe, hosts and guests is a tiny, tiny fraction of the people in the world. It is absurd to think that airbnb could ever scale to justify its investments if only those sophisticated users were customers. The model relies, therefore, on large numbers of hosts and g…
What about all of the good that AirBnB does for the large majority of people who use the site? Is there a deep ethical problem with letting people supplement their income, while also letting travellers have a cheaper option for a night/weeks stay?
The vast majority of people who use AirBnb benefit from it.
Re: Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
"But there's something "off" about EJ's position here. Why is a vandalized apartment leaving her homeless?" Put yourself in the position of a person who has just had their apartment burglarized (remember: they stole her personal documents and valuables) and their keys stolen by probable drug addicts. Also, remember that the police have arrested one of the vandals, but probably not all of them. Ignoring, for the momen…
My apartment in San Francisco was burglarized in a similar manner,without the assistance of AirBnB. I did not develop PTSD. Based off my own experience, I also find that something seems off about EJ's story. I've found the internet's response at least strange as the incident itself.
Would you mind telling your story?
Re: Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
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No, and neither did this guy, Troy, who also called airbnb. I don't think its a good idea to counter with more speculation.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that EJ has at least as much legal representation as I'd have any time I ended a lease with a significant security deposit, and if you don't think that's reasonable, I don't care; I simply think you're wrong. The world will nonetheless continue turning on its axis.
It may be surprising to you but a lot of people are not so lawyerly. I myself have never used a lawyer for a personal matter despite many situations where it sounds like you would. It's just not my thing I suppose and I don't believe I'm alone. Not saying it's better or worse.
Re: Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
#168This new account (of a home trashing occurring 1 month ago, of which Airbnb had knowledge) doesn't seem to reconcile with what Airbnb told EJ:
"I do believe the folks at airbnb.com when they tell me this has never happened before in their short history, that this is a one-off case."
Re: Another Airbnb Victim Tells His Story: “There Were Meth Pipes Everywhere”
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
"But there's something "off" about EJ's position here. Why is a vandalized apartment leaving her homeless?" Put yourself in the position of a person who has just had their apartment burglarized (remember: they stole her personal documents and valuables) and their keys stolen by probable drug addicts. Also, remember that the police have arrested one of the vandals, but probably not all of them. Ignoring, for the momen…
Having had that exact situation happen to me (a burglary), neither my wife nor I acted anything like this. And yes, I understand that everyone reacts differently to these situations, but she seems like she seriously needs some professional help (which I would argue also is ok; different folks, different needs), that she is willfully NOT GETTING, but rather airing emotionally-laden tidbits for the masses to consume as…
I think this obviously different from your garden variety burglary. For one, I think the owner is questioning both her ability to make good judgments as well as trust other people and services. This is in addition to the helpless feeling of being burgled.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If she hasn't had the locks changed by now, She did. I don't see why you need to speculate on that point; in her first blog post that brought this whole mess to our attention, she said "Although I had the locks changed" ...
I think you meant to say this to the parent comment, which suggested "EJ" might be scared because the thieves still had her keys.
Well who knows what keys they might still have? Everyone i know has lots of keys and doesn't get all of them changed immediately.