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Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by dna_polymerase » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:51 PM UTC

actually_a_dog wrote: post #153

nooyurrsdey wrote: post #145

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The amount of anger and negativity in this comment is shocking. The work she does is often stereotyped as being "dumb" or non-intellectual. To fight that idea, OP found it valuable to mention how smart she is and how these platorms provide a safe and profitable way to provide for her child. Ask yourself - and I mean really ask yourself - what about that statement has you so angry?

I think it's the implication that sex work is inherently beneath someone who is "brilliant."

You got it. Drives me nuts. Like a computer scientist is inherent gold for society and everyone else has to justify their existence.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by ethbr0 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:51 PM UTC

gunfighthacksaw wrote: post #141

GavinMcG wrote: post #124

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It's how the world has always worked, which is why it's a phrase in the first place.

It’s fucked up is what it is. Right now my coworkers like me, my manager gave me a glowing review, the company is willing to buy me certs and I have been assigned to the subteam responsible for our core functionality. 8 months ago I was self-harming and ready to off myself because of endlessly firing applications into the void and reaching the end of my finances. I can clearly perform under the stress of work, school…

As parent was telling you, that's always been America.

Except historically, most jobs have been less safe.

You get crap jobs in your teens to have work history. You go to college to get a degree. You make friends at college, network, and maybe get an internship. You leverage all of the previous to get your first job. You leverage your first job and network to get your second job.

It's not easy. But it is how the world works. Why do you think so many people in white collar jobs have imposter syndrome?

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by staticassertion » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:51 PM UTC

onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

You don't pay investments back. They are a purchase of shares. The exchange is made and you're done.

> How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably close to market saturation (in the sense that further exponential growth is implausible)?

Moving into new markets, expanding the scope of the existing market, etc. Is OnlyFans that different from Youtube, or Patreon? Is it that different from GoFundMe?

There are plenty of adjacent markets that OF could be trying to tackle.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by Daedren » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:51 PM UTC

busymom0 wrote: post #157

duxup wrote: post #72

My understanding was that they were being cut off by payment processors and banks and that drove the decision. Was this resolved?

I would also like to know on whether it's possible for someone to start their own payment processors? There are tutorials on how to start an ISP, so should be possible for payment processors too no?

No because the banks from which the payments come from must support said processors.

Many countries have their own local payment processors, but it's still only a country-wide thing.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by syshum » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:52 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #139

rayiner wrote: post #128

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Well, not just elites. This is the policy everyone voted for: less taxes (causing young folks to go heavily into debt for worthless degree credentials), less social safety nets, a generational wealth transfer from the young to the old. The results are exactly what you’d expect, and older generations should absolutely be worried when their cohort has shrunk through death to a minority voting bloc.

>> less taxes (causing young folks to go heavily into debt for worthless degree credentials)

So let me understand this thought process? It is better for Taxpayers to pay for "worthless degree credentials"

The biggest problem in society as far as jobs are concerned is credential-ism itself. A standard public education should be good enough for a person to obtain a good middle class job, a K-12 education should be good enough for 50-60% of all jobs in the market

That fact that it is not, is a huge indictment of both the private sector demanding too much, and the public school system no providing proper standard of education.

K-12 SHOULD NOT be "college prep" like it is being treated today, and a person SHOULD NOT need a 4 year degree to do the most basic jobs in society, up to and including computer programming or other general IT work.

I think you have it in your mind that the government can solve all of these problems with higher taxes and more spending, when in reality government is almost exclusively to blame for the majority of the problems

More government will not solve it.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by mzs » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:52 PM UTC

digianarchist wrote: post #64

zuppy wrote: post #54

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mastercard denied saying this. what a clusterfu*k.

It wasn't MasterCard that was the problem rather their banking partners according to the FT.

Thanks for the heads-up, the article from yesterday:

https://www.ft.com/content/7b8ce71c-a87a-440e-9f3d-58069ca04...

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by TillE » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:53 PM UTC

300bps wrote: post #19

So it was a publicity stunt after all.

The extremely quick turnaround does suggest this as one of the more plausible explanations, but it's an incredibly stupid, counterproductive publicity stunt if so.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by busymom0 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:53 PM UTC

Daedren wrote: post #174

busymom0 wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would also like to know on whether it's possible for someone to start their own payment processors? There are tutorials on how to start an ISP, so should be possible for payment processors too no?

No because the banks from which the payments come from must support said processors. Many countries have their own local payment processors, but it's still only a country-wide thing.

So I guess starting a bank is the next step?

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by staticassertion » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:53 PM UTC

busymom0 wrote: post #157

duxup wrote: post #72

My understanding was that they were being cut off by payment processors and banks and that drove the decision. Was this resolved?

I would also like to know on whether it's possible for someone to start their own payment processors? There are tutorials on how to start an ISP, so should be possible for payment processors too no?

The bar is probably much higher. Among other things you're going to have a ton of regulatory controls to deal with.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by hermannj314 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:53 PM UTC

onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

Raising capital is not always for money. It can also be a means of paying for protection.

Letting powerful people wet their beak has always been a part of how the game is played.