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Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by gunfighthacksaw » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:43 PM UTC

GavinMcG wrote: post #124

gunfighthacksaw wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t help when you don’t have the foot in the door because your family is not traditionally professional. I had to ask one of my old graduate project partners for a referral to my current (and first, at 27) tech job and I still feel dirty and guilty that I got it so easily and managed to escape the trap of being extremely qualified while making min wage in a dusty shithole of a warehouse. “It’s not what you know,…

It's how the world has always worked, which is why it's a phrase in the first place.

It’s fucked up is what it is.

Right now my coworkers like me, my manager gave me a glowing review, the company is willing to buy me certs and I have been assigned to the subteam responsible for our core functionality.

8 months ago I was self-harming and ready to off myself because of endlessly firing applications into the void and reaching the end of my finances.

I can clearly perform under the stress of work, school, achievement, things breaking but the way the labour market is structured almost broke me which has to tell you something.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by elliekelly » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:44 PM UTC

CabSauce wrote: post #100

traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

The problem with college is the cost, not the degrees people choose to pursue. And blaming students for studying things that aren’t in demand is a straw man.

A lot can change in the four years between enrollment and graduation. For example, I went to college in 2006 when the finance sector was booming. I graduated in 2010 when it very much wasn’t. By the time the jobs had evaporated it was much too late to change my course of study. And I certainly couldn’t go back and renegotiate the tuition or interest rate on my loans.

I’m sure the same could be said about people who went to school for anything relating to tourism or hospitality who have graduated into the pandemic. If you’re a new chef, pilot, hair dresser, massage therapist, looking to work in hotel management, etc. the job market that existed when you began your studies is entirely different from the job market you’ve just graduated into.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by convery » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:44 PM UTC

ckdarby wrote: post #86

doikor wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely "we managed to get a deal in place with our payment processor". The only reason why they were going to do this was their payment processor saying they would stop processing their payments.

With all the PR a major bank that deals with high risk would have stepped in. There is too much volume and processing to turn a blind eye from this deal. It should be noted that the cams see a lot lower chargebacks than subscriptions because of the shady tactics a lot of subscription adult sites use. Example would be not noticing a "$1 trial" addon being offered that recurs at like $44.95/month. The rest of the charg…

Indeed, but it's odd that creditcard companies are so hard on merchants. Surely they could just offer some program where they hold payments in escrow until the transaction is final and just subtract chargebacks from the escrow account as necessary.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by andy_ppp » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:44 PM UTC

vermilingua wrote: post #32

andy_ppp wrote: post #27

I guess you can expect companies to start using the defence of many politicians, just create as much noise and kick up as much dirt as possible distracting from whatever the main issue is (in this case child porn on your platform [1]). They were never going to ban adult content were they. Cynical in the extreme. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58255865 EDIT: I’ve updated this comment with a BBC investigation that s…

I guess you’re just using the offence of many current politicians, attack everything you disagree with under the pretense that it aids paedophiles.

Not at all, I was just wondering if OnlyFans banning adult content was a distraction tactic (from the BBC investigation or something else), it seems extremely likely as it doesn’t make any sense for a porn site to ban pornography!

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by nooyurrsdey » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:44 PM UTC

dna_polymerase wrote: post #103

immmmmm wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a good friend of mine is a sex worker, a cam girl to be precise, and uses OF as it is safer than other platforms. it should be noted that she is a brilliant individual and do this job due to severe psychiatric problems that prevent her doing more "normal" jobs. she feeds one child with this money, as a lot of sex workers that are also loving moms. it is important that such platforms do exist (if they implement proper…

> it should be noted that she is a brilliant individual it should NOT be noted. Too many good people died in the wars of past centuries to get us to the freedom and liberty we enjoy today to let any fundamentalists dictate what a normal job is and who works it. Sex work is work and if you dislike it you'd might enjoy Afghanistan these days.

The amount of anger and negativity in this comment is shocking.

The work she does is often stereotyped as being "dumb" or non-intellectual. To fight that idea, OP found it valuable to mention how smart she is and how these platorms provide a safe and profitable way to provide for her child.

Ask yourself - and I mean really ask yourself - what about that statement has you so angry?

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by slingnow » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #128

traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

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Damn, that's one a hell of a leap!

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by cpach » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #128

traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

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It’s troubling indeed. Out of curiosity, what kind of policy reform would you like to see in the US in order to cope with this dilemma?

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by eloisant » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

It's not necessarily money they'll have to pay back, it can be investors getting a share of the company (and existing investors getting their share diluted).

Sometimes they might want to raise to grow faster than your competitors. Not sure about their market, but sometimes there is a "winner takes all" market where the winner isn't established yet. So it's a race to grow fast enough to be the first to get to that network effect.

Look at online videos for example. Youtube has a near monopoly, while Dailymotion, Vimeo and others are just getting scraps. If your market hasn't settled yet, even if you're already established and growing, getting investors money could mean the difference between becoming Youtube and becoming Dailymotion.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by _nalply » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

ckdarby wrote: post #86

doikor wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely "we managed to get a deal in place with our payment processor". The only reason why they were going to do this was their payment processor saying they would stop processing their payments.

With all the PR a major bank that deals with high risk would have stepped in. There is too much volume and processing to turn a blind eye from this deal. It should be noted that the cams see a lot lower chargebacks than subscriptions because of the shady tactics a lot of subscription adult sites use. Example would be not noticing a "$1 trial" addon being offered that recurs at like $44.95/month. The rest of the charg…

What do you think what they will do to handle the high risk?

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by albertgoeswoof » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 1:46 PM UTC

onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

It’s perceived trajectory. You think they can’t grow any more- they think they can grow 100x over with enough capital

Growing organically takes a long time and require a lot of luck. Capital can unlock massive growth if used in the right way.

Besides, why not? If the company gets bigger, all the execs win, if the company raises money and wastes it and collapses, the execs are rich already and just move on.