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Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The damn thing doesn't even have a web browser that isn't safari. Why would you claim this? There are no limitations on web browsers.

> Why would you claim this? There are no limitations on web browsers. All browsers on iOS must use the WebKit browser engine making them, in essence, safari clones with a different look and feel.

They say “the Apple” While it’s true for ios, “the Apple” also makes macos, where you can freely pick your browser

Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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This is particularly troubling in light of their CSAM detection. "Before an image is stored in iCloud Photos, an on-device matching process is performed for that image against the known CSAM hashes." You do not own an Apple device that you buy. https://www.macworld.com/article/352875/ios-15-csam-scanning...

I’m willing to bet that this will be called an accidental bug by apple and never addressed.

I'd prefer we call it data piracy though.

Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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Color me surprised Seriously I really want to be able to claim I own a piece of electronics again. I feel the next step will be the FBI putting in a watchlist whoever buys a Polaroid, a Framework laptop or a Pinephone (suspicious that you don't want to be spied on...).

That's sad, but hilarious, but really sad

Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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Is Apple’s sin, here, assuming that when you sign into iCloud, you want to use iCloud?

Apple should either remember those privacy-related settings or don't enable any privacy-leaking settings (like iCloud photos) by default. At least as long as they claim to be privacy-aware company.

Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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how about all apple owners start "Abusing" the system by having copyritten gettypage photos and shutterstock photos. in coming days, a la youtube you will be made aware of copyritten material in your possession for which you would have 2 options. blur the photos/videos or delete them or pay royalty everytime the photo/video gets viewed in the gallery app. pretty sweet deal for the copyright holders because you are obviously earning off of their IP and they need to be compensated. Or, you can buy a photo size wise viewing license to view photos and videos on the phone in your hand because you don't really own it, apple "licenses" the device to you. think about it, you pay rent to use an apple device for a year and after that, return the same back to apple and get a new model instead for another year. rinse and repeat

Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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how about all apple owners start "Abusing" the system by having copyritten gettypage photos and shutterstock photos. in coming days, a la youtube you will be made aware of copyritten material in your possession for which you would have 2 options. blur the photos/videos or delete them or pay royalty everytime the photo/video gets viewed in the gallery app. pretty sweet deal for the copyright holders because you are ob…

Better yet just spam folks with AirDrop to show how merely having an image on device doesn't mean squat irrespective of automatically downloaded images from a website or AirDropped in a bunch of unrelated media, lest you get a engineered adversarial image which has the same NeuralHash as CSAM catalog.

Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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post #8

Also if you activate the screenshot on tap, you'll notice that your iphone will take screenshots through out the day without you even providing the necessary taps. see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/hzovl0/back_tap_set_to...

1. Even the reddit posts doesn't claim that 2. Do you think Apple would put the screenshots in the Photos app if they were taking them in order to spy on you?

> to spy on you

You made that leap yourself.

I'm not pointing out a grand conspiracy, I'm pointing out another another gap in Apples privacy model.

> Even the reddit posts doesn't claim that

That is literally the entire post. But okay

Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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post #28
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Even the reddit posts doesn't claim that 2. Do you think Apple would put the screenshots in the Photos app if they were taking them in order to spy on you?

> to spy on you You made that leap yourself. I'm not pointing out a grand conspiracy, I'm pointing out another another gap in Apples privacy model. > Even the reddit posts doesn't claim that That is literally the entire post. But okay

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Re: Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync

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post #27

how about all apple owners start "Abusing" the system by having copyritten gettypage photos and shutterstock photos. in coming days, a la youtube you will be made aware of copyritten material in your possession for which you would have 2 options. blur the photos/videos or delete them or pay royalty everytime the photo/video gets viewed in the gallery app. pretty sweet deal for the copyright holders because you are ob…

Better yet just spam folks with AirDrop to show how merely having an image on device doesn't mean squat irrespective of automatically downloaded images from a website or AirDropped in a bunch of unrelated media, lest you get a engineered adversarial image which has the same NeuralHash as CSAM catalog.

> Better yet just spam folks with AirDrop to show how merely having an image on device doesn't mean squat

Been a long time since I've had an AirDrop from a device that wasn't mine - don't you have to confirm acceptance?

According to [1], yes, unless it's from your Apple ID, you get a preview and have to explicitly accept/reject.

"When someone shares something with you using AirDrop, you see an alert with a preview. You can tap Accept or Decline."

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204144

Are you saying that if you hit "Decline", it still saves the photo to Photos?

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