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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by ragebol »

jollybean wrote: post #277
ragebol wrote: post #212

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Im 100% sure Tesla can mass-produce the hardware for such robots. But the biggest challenge is in software, And then the FSD debacle comes to mind. There's major advances in AI needed to get to full self driving and even more advances for a useful autonomous humanoid robot. But then again, those will not come to fruition just by waiting, someone has to work on this and if Tesla advances the state of the art, I can on…

The hardware for such things doesn't exist yet, we don't know how to make it. Have you seen Boston Dynmamics robots? And their clunky size and shape? And compared those to the life-like body of the Tesla demo? We don't know how to make such robots yet.

Oh, I'm 100% sure the robot hardware Tesla will make will not look like what is shown in the presentation, because that design makes no sense. There's no room for joints to move etc. The BD hardware looks cluncky, but it is robust.

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Post by chronic2703 »

itsoktocry wrote: post #286
csmeder wrote: post #167

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Haha, and then in 10 years when He announces X you will say: “since he’s had great success in pioneering self landing reusable rockets, starting a colony on Mars, pioneering the EV market, pioneering Robo taxis, making the first commercial humanoid robots, moving traffic underground, adding computers to people’s brains, he has now fallen for the idea that he can easily repeat that success in other areas like X” This…

You will never be wrong, because you will always tell other people "it's coming". That's the whole trick. Elon promised a coast to coast self driving demonstration 5 years ago, and they are nowhere close. Is that a failure yet in your eyes?

> Elon promised a coast to coast self driving demonstration 5 years ago, and they are nowhere close.

Bingo.

This is when the Elon fanboys say “99.99999%” or “safety first” or “wide beta in 2 weeks”.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by elurg »

marticode wrote: post #273
croddin wrote: post #176

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> But "useful humanoid robot" is way more forward-looking than anything else he's done this with Other aspirational goals he has set include a colony of a million people on Mars and a neural lace. I think a humanoid robot is less ambitious than either of these two.

We already have the technology to send people to Mars. We sent people on round trips to the moon 50 years ago, so a one way ticket to Mars now isn't really that hard. What we don't have is cost effective technology to send enough people and equipment for a permanent colony there. But at this point it's really just working on getting cost down (which Musk has done beautifully so far), we have a pretty good idea of how…

> We already have the technology to send people to Mars.

Not for live humans we don't. The record for landing on Mars is around 1 ton for >$1B, this is too little for a crew cabin and ignores the life support requirement for months spend in space.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by elurg »

itsoktocry wrote: post #286
csmeder wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, and then in 10 years when He announces X you will say: “since he’s had great success in pioneering self landing reusable rockets, starting a colony on Mars, pioneering the EV market, pioneering Robo taxis, making the first commercial humanoid robots, moving traffic underground, adding computers to people’s brains, he has now fallen for the idea that he can easily repeat that success in other areas like X” This…

You will never be wrong, because you will always tell other people "it's coming". That's the whole trick. Elon promised a coast to coast self driving demonstration 5 years ago, and they are nowhere close. Is that a failure yet in your eyes?

Falcon Heavy was 5 years late but it's operational.

Being more than 5 years late on coast-to-cost self driving does in fact seem reasonable.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by elurg »

rmst wrote: post #254
CommieBobDole wrote: post #53

Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…

It doesn't matter if this isn't happening in any useful form in a reasonable amount of time. It's still great for hiring and funding. He has used the same hiring technique since x.com: 1) announce overambitious, relatable, unoriginal goal (e.g. human settlement on Mars) 2) present vague, relatable, unoriginal strategy (e.g. reusable rockets) 3) hire people 4) actually have them work on more incremental stuff (e.g. la…

Launch services are in fact the most important problem to work on for a human settlement on Mars and SpaceX is making useful progress towards it.

SpaceX is following their vision very precisely.

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Post by elurg »

bmitc wrote: post #132
camjohnson26 wrote: post #2

Reveals it with a person in a suit dancing to dubstep: https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s...

I said this in another comment, but how do they get away with it? People are in this very thread making serious comments like Tesla has even a thread of a chance of actually doing this… I’d love it if Boston Dynamics recreates this dance with Atlas.

> I’d love it if Boston Dynamics recreates this dance with Atlas.

If Boston Dynamics can recreate the dance, why couldn't Tesla?

This is a serious question, as far as I can tell it would only require time and money which Tesla does have.

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Post by kalleboo »

tablespoon wrote: post #107
camjohnson26 wrote: post #2

Reveals it with a person in a suit dancing to dubstep: https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s...

> Reveals it with a person in a suit dancing to dubstep: https://twitter.com/TESLAcharts/status/1428540624203128837?s... In five years, Tesla bot version 1.0 will be a Tesla-brand gig-work slave wearing that silly robot suit. In ten years, they'll still be working on the robotic version 2.0, which they will be perpetually promising to release "next year."

Isn't that more the Uber playbook?

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Post by elurg »

jollybean wrote: post #278
klintcho wrote: post #127

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It's quite interesting how people keep betting against Elon. The HN crowd should consist of mostly risk-tolerant personalities, but the majority of comments are negative. Regardless of what one might think of the feasibility, no other company in the world today are as ambitions as SpaceX and Tesla (+ Neuralink). Feels like what Apple used to be during the "one more thing"-era. Both Tesla and SpaceX has been discounte…

"It's quite interesting how people keep betting against Elon." Because he doesn't have superpowers. Making a car that runs on batteries is a feat, ramping up production of an automobile is a feat, but within reason. Making a humanoid robot, something that nobody else in the world has any clue how to do, and which Tesla has no background in ... well that's more than a feat. So a better question - why do people continu…

> Making a humanoid robot, something that nobody else in the world has any clue how to do, and which Tesla has no background in ... well that's more than a feat.

Boston Dynamics has shown robots capable of dancing. Can Tesla replicate? Maybe not in one year, but for such a project it doesn't really matter if it's late.

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