Net... uhm.. payment-processors-neutrality! I have no idea why payment processors get to choose and pick what they want to process and what they don't.
This. If you are going to be a legal dualolopy, then you can't cut off payments like you can't cut off power or water. Personally I breaking thei anti-trust behavior entirely, so people have options.
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#112So in Brazil the government blocked WhatsApp payments until they launched the central bank's own easy payment method called PIX PIX is so good because there is no middle men, no transaction cost(for now), just an easy money transfer Solutions like PIX would remove completely the pressure that credit card providers have on companies and individuals, especially when it comes to sex work
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#113Seen this thread going around, but it seems like it skips over the important bit. > So why the rule changes? Because last December the New York Times published an opinion piece by Nick Kristof caller “The Children of Pornhub” that accused the site and its parent company of profiting off revenge porn, child porn and sex trafficking. How do you get from 'opinion piece in a newspaper' to 'gigantic transnational financia…
According to the thread > Which, to be clear, they kinda were. PornHub was notoriously bad among the tube sites for its reckless lack of content moderation and exploitation of the people whose videos ended up there. Because of the story, Visa and MasterCard both cut PornHub off. This should be fairly easy to verify and would corroborate the thread
By Thursday of the next week, December 10th, Visa and MC had cut them off. Discover had followed the next day, the 11th. The Washington Post article linked below includes a statement from MC which reads:
"Our investigation over the past several days has confirmed violations of our standards prohibiting unlawful content on their site. As a result, and in accordance with our policies, we instructed the financial institutions that connect the site to our network to terminate acceptance."
See: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/pornhub-crack... and https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/12/10/pornhub-m...
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#114So the timing of this, and the Apple's CSAM is interesting. Are companies facing a legal liability or afraid of facing one in the future? Are they worried that they could potentially be liable under FOSTA-SESTA?
I’m skeptical that we would be seeing the large scale changes to sites like Craigslist, Pornhub, and OnlyFans just because of a NYT article and some prude Christian activists.
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#115How far away is crypto from being a viable alternative payment processor? The problems I see are the translation layer between fiat and crypto, the fluctuation of value of tokens, the long confirmation process of many tokens, the environmental impact, and the physical infrastructure (atms, etc). Each individual problems seems solvable, and it would be a significant historical event if banking was moved to these decen…
And, if those problems were solved and it became more of an everyday form of payment, there's the problem that government would start regulating it like other money anyway...
There are crypto enthusiasts in every jurisdiction, with various motivations, including legitimate ones. They will speak out for any undue burden.
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#116Seen this thread going around, but it seems like it skips over the important bit. > So why the rule changes? Because last December the New York Times published an opinion piece by Nick Kristof caller “The Children of Pornhub” that accused the site and its parent company of profiting off revenge porn, child porn and sex trafficking. How do you get from 'opinion piece in a newspaper' to 'gigantic transnational financia…
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#117Seen this thread going around, but it seems like it skips over the important bit. > So why the rule changes? Because last December the New York Times published an opinion piece by Nick Kristof caller “The Children of Pornhub” that accused the site and its parent company of profiting off revenge porn, child porn and sex trafficking. How do you get from 'opinion piece in a newspaper' to 'gigantic transnational financia…
Kristof's piece wasn't the first I'd heard of the "Traffickinghub" campaign but it seemed to be the first time a lot of people around me did.
What wasn't widely known at the time was that basically all their "data" was either exaggerated or outright fabrication, with near-zero sources, and backed by religious fundamentalists. That didn't start coming out until the damage had already been done.
"Won't somebody think of the children?!" works every fucking time though.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it worth continuing to push sex workers into illegality, thereby putting them in danger? Put another way, do we have a right to sacrifice one population to protect another? Allow me to doubt it.
> Is it worth continuing to push sex workers into illegality If that's the price to pay in order to rescue vulnerable people who are being exploited and trafficked, very much so. Sex work is a decadent luxury at best; human freedom and agency are worth so much more. > thereby putting them in danger? There's no proof that legitimate sex workers are being "put in danger". They might be de-facto forbidden from engaging…
I find this argument perfectly compelling with regard to 'traditional' definitions of sex work. Legalize and regulate prostitution, just like the Dutch.
But I also have no problem with strict regulation of platforms for user-generated explicit content. The argument that Onlyfans performers constitute a group that needs protecting from regulation holds less water than the argument that kids need protection from exploitation. And I don't just mean trafficking - I consider a platform that attracts minors and enables them to monetize sexual images of themselves to be exploitative.
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#120Seen this thread going around, but it seems like it skips over the important bit. > So why the rule changes? Because last December the New York Times published an opinion piece by Nick Kristof caller “The Children of Pornhub” that accused the site and its parent company of profiting off revenge porn, child porn and sex trafficking. How do you get from 'opinion piece in a newspaper' to 'gigantic transnational financia…
All it took was one useful billionaire... https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b1s9f698vwhczr...