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Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by webkike » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:26 PM UTC

twic wrote: post #29

Seen this thread going around, but it seems like it skips over the important bit. > So why the rule changes? Because last December the New York Times published an opinion piece by Nick Kristof caller “The Children of Pornhub” that accused the site and its parent company of profiting off revenge porn, child porn and sex trafficking. How do you get from 'opinion piece in a newspaper' to 'gigantic transnational financia…

According to the thread

> Which, to be clear, they kinda were. PornHub was notoriously bad among the tube sites for its reckless lack of content moderation and exploitation of the people whose videos ended up there. Because of the story, Visa and MasterCard both cut PornHub off.

This should be fairly easy to verify and would corroborate the thread

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by Notanothertoo » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

nonameiguess wrote: post #64

At least this explains why normal porn sites keep living on perfectly well using MasterCard and Visa. They already have to follow regulatory requirements to demonstrate they are complying with age and consent laws, each video includes a front-matter frame saying where you can get the documentation of their compliance, and many include behind-the-scenes extra content showing all of the performers presenting government…

Uhh pornhub takes btc and ach only

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by d0100 » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:27 PM UTC

So in Brazil the government blocked WhatsApp payments until they launched the central bank's own easy payment method called PIX

PIX is so good because there is no middle men, no transaction cost(for now), just an easy money transfer

Solutions like PIX would remove completely the pressure that credit card providers have on companies and individuals, especially when it comes to sex work

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by technothrasher » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:28 PM UTC

swiley wrote: post #26

fxtentacle wrote: post #6

I believe his argumentation that this is a push by Christian organizations might be correct, but I believe he's deluded in that he appears to think that he's speaking for the majority. "65% of adults in the United States identified themselves as Christians."

Most Christians I know are against legislating morality because that could result in the government being involved in the church.

Most Christians I know are way more myopic than that.

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by Pet_Ant » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

dqv wrote: post #45

twic wrote: post #29

Seen this thread going around, but it seems like it skips over the important bit. > So why the rule changes? Because last December the New York Times published an opinion piece by Nick Kristof caller “The Children of Pornhub” that accused the site and its parent company of profiting off revenge porn, child porn and sex trafficking. How do you get from 'opinion piece in a newspaper' to 'gigantic transnational financia…

Rumor has it that OF is the next target of Exodus Cry

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_Cry

“ Exodus Cry is a non-profit advocacy organization seeking the abolition of the legal commercial sex industry, including pornography, strip clubs and sex work, as well as illegal sex trafficking. The organization originally developed out of a weekly prayer group founded in 2007 by Benjamin Nolot, a filmmaker and member of the charismatic Christian International House of Prayer.”

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by altendo » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:29 PM UTC

Aachen wrote: post #41

dageshi wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They expect VISA will follow suit.

Source? Or are you just assuming?

I believe that it's an assumption for now, but a reasonable one to make. I think it's unlikely that Visa exposes itself to legal risks where MasterCard is not - why give your competitor an edge like that?

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by ridaj » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:30 PM UTC

after_care wrote: post #11

How far away is crypto from being a viable alternative payment processor? The problems I see are the translation layer between fiat and crypto, the fluctuation of value of tokens, the long confirmation process of many tokens, the environmental impact, and the physical infrastructure (atms, etc). Each individual problems seems solvable, and it would be a significant historical event if banking was moved to these decen…

And, if those problems were solved and it became more of an everyday form of payment, there's the problem that government would start regulating it like other money anyway...

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by ImprobableTruth » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:31 PM UTC

BarryMilo wrote: post #50

zozbot234 wrote: post #36

The concern that various kinds of legal sex work might be a de-facto haven for human trafficking is at least many decades old, does not solely or even mainly originate from people identifying as Christians, and seems to have a pretty solid factual basis - at the very least, there is a consensus on the broad argument if not the details. The Twitter thread does not even attempt to fairly acknowledge these facts. Very s…

Is it worth continuing to push sex workers into illegality, thereby putting them in danger? Put another way, do we have a right to sacrifice one population to protect another? Allow me to doubt it.

>do we have a right to sacrifice one population to protect another?

You're doing that one way or the other. The question is merely which one should be protected and which sacrificed.

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by gammarator » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:33 PM UTC

neogodless wrote: post #2

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1428584131835748359.html

Thanks. Twitter has apparently taken a page from Reddit’s playbook and won’t let me view the whole thread on mobile without downloading their app.

Re: A lot of people are getting the OnlyFans story wrong

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Post by runawaybottle » Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 2:35 PM UTC

twic wrote: post #29

Seen this thread going around, but it seems like it skips over the important bit. > So why the rule changes? Because last December the New York Times published an opinion piece by Nick Kristof caller “The Children of Pornhub” that accused the site and its parent company of profiting off revenge porn, child porn and sex trafficking. How do you get from 'opinion piece in a newspaper' to 'gigantic transnational financia…

There’s more money to be made as an acceptable platform that isn’t seen as a porn site. Many women on Twitch already do sexualized streams. Twitch is not seen as taboo.

It’s just a bigger market when people can feel like they aren’t a complete sex worker, and can actually share that they are on OnlyFans, same way they can share their Twitch.