I can’t wait for Tesla Bot to veer off the path with my shopping and fall in a river.
Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is a good point; Musk does sometimes announce things that essentially serve as a placeholder for "we're going to do this thing once the technology improves enough to make it feasible", and this is likely more of the same. But "useful humanoid robot" is way more forward-looking than anything else he's done this with; the closest thing would be the whole "full self-driving without LIDAR" thing, which keeps getting…
> If I had to make a bet on when it was possible, I'd say 25 years. Maybe 10 if Tesla goes all-in on robots and spends tens of billions on it, Manhattan project style. I have a decade of experience in robotics (including both humanoid robots and self-driving cars) and I think this is optimistic. Robotics is a wonderful field if you like to work on hard research problems. It is a terrible field if you're trying to inv…
Why? I mean, what are current problems with making this work?
Hardware/mechanical part? Software? Energy source? All of those? I would assume it's software, same as with level5 self driving (?)
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's see. By building the best electric cars? And running a sustainable automotive business? Sending autonomous rockets to the space station? With humans!! Reducing cost of electric cars and rockets drastically? On and on and on.
Tesla has nothing to do with rockets, so that’s all irrelevant. Tesla does not make the best electric vehicles. I doubt they’re sustainable in the future with more and more competition onboarding. For example, other car manufacturers rev their models every couple of years or so across dozens of models across several geographic regions. Tesla is clearly not able to do that with their existing three models. I guess we’…
There is still no car that closely challenges 2012 Model S. Tesla has a production problem not a demand problem.
Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
#244Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…
Haha, and then in 10 years when He announces X you will say: “since he’s had great success in pioneering self landing reusable rockets, starting a colony on Mars, pioneering the EV market, pioneering Robo taxis, making the first commercial humanoid robots, moving traffic underground, adding computers to people’s brains, he has now fallen for the idea that he can easily repeat that success in other areas like X” This…
Yeah, yeah, but aside from all that, what has Musk done for us?
Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
#245Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…
Have you even watched the announcement? Has anyone commenting here did? He clearly said the bot v1 won't do more than carrying simple things and will be super slow and weak. It will only have very basic grasping hands, even likely with 3 fingers. It will be what grasshopper was to Falcon 9. And about autonomous driving, Tesla autopilot seems to be almost as good as Waymo, except with pure vision. And I'd bet a great…
> Tesla autopilot seems to be almost as good as Waymo
Tesla's system is better, if only because you can buy it right now. Waymo has sold exactly zero of their cars, and they don't even have a plan to do that any time soon.
Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
#246Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…
would you rather he not try?
Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If I had to make a bet on when it was possible, I'd say 25 years. Maybe 10 if Tesla goes all-in on robots and spends tens of billions on it, Manhattan project style. I have a decade of experience in robotics (including both humanoid robots and self-driving cars) and I think this is optimistic. Robotics is a wonderful field if you like to work on hard research problems. It is a terrible field if you're trying to inv…
I think industrial robotics is a well established and profitable field.
That 100% something else. Industrial robots are almost allways in a cage for safety. I know there are 'cobots' now, but I just never saw one, except in showcases. Industrial robots just do a fixed task and are dumber than a slice bread. Industrial robots are super heavy for what they can lift. Even they are very efficient with energy, they are still allways on main grid / no batteries.
The huge task is anyway not to build a robot. The huge part is to make the robot (or any device) smarter than a slice bread.
Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
#248Lots of negative comments here. Can someone actually comment on whether this is even remotely possible today? Or is this more than a decade away?
you can look at the latest boston dynamics demos to see what the cutting edge in humanoid robots is. This form factor, with a working prototype, shown in the next year is absurd.
Or it's doable precisely because BD have done the legwork (heh). Just make it different enough or deal with the lawsuits later.
Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”
#249Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…
Energy storage is one of the most problematic aspects. These guys will need to be heavy to be useful for more than a couple of minutes. This creates additional challenges (like quickly moving toddlers). I bet early adopters will be people without small kids.
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#250Classic Musk hiring technique:
1) announce overambitious, relatable, unoriginal goal (e.g. human settlement on Mars)
2) present vague, relatable, unoriginal strategy (e.g. reusable rockets)
3) hire people
4) actually have them work on more incremental stuff (e.g. launch provider services)
5) profit