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Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by natch »

FireBeyond wrote: post #161
CommieBobDole wrote: post #116

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That is a good point; Musk does sometimes announce things that essentially serve as a placeholder for "we're going to do this thing once the technology improves enough to make it feasible", and this is likely more of the same. But "useful humanoid robot" is way more forward-looking than anything else he's done this with; the closest thing would be the whole "full self-driving without LIDAR" thing, which keeps getting…

> If I had to make a bet on when it was possible, I'd say 25 years. Maybe 10 if Tesla goes all-in on robots and spends tens of billions on it, Manhattan project style. Except Musk says they'll be in beta in 2022. Hah.

>Hah.

Crappy beta can be done quickly and can lead to other things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9_prototypes

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by vardump »

sidibe wrote: post #13
rvz wrote: post #8

By the time FSD is literally 'Full Self Driving' and much more safer to use than today, the Tesla bot will be ready. Until then, it is a prototype mannequin compared to the bots by Boston Dynamics. We'll see how it 'really works' soon.

If you watch the presentation it looks like something they thought of 5 minutes before the presentation. Doubt there's even a prototype. He didn't know what to say about it, just showed the slide and then when people asked questions about it he looked like he was considering everything for the first time.

"Doubt there's even a prototype."

No kidding, as Elon said the prototype is coming next year. One year of Elon time, as we know, probably means it's coming in less than 10 years.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by natch »

natch wrote: post #130
csmeder wrote: post #82

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From what I’ve seen FSD makes minor mistakes that at high speeds lead to danger or death. I can’t see a minor mistake in folding laundry leading to the laundry being shredded. Musk said the robots would not be strong (only can lift 5lbs). So unless the robot picked up scissors it couldn’t shred the laundry. Unless I’m missing something?

FSD has not been rolled out yet, so you’re attributing to FSD some errors that are actually made by humans. Yeah maybe these humans were confused by marketing to think it was FSD, just as you think it was FSD, but that doesn’t make it FSD.

The downvotes are fascinating. It’s like doubling down on misinformed thinking but… to what end?

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by cush »

OnlineGladiator wrote: post #129
CommieBobDole wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a good point; Musk does sometimes announce things that essentially serve as a placeholder for "we're going to do this thing once the technology improves enough to make it feasible", and this is likely more of the same. But "useful humanoid robot" is way more forward-looking than anything else he's done this with; the closest thing would be the whole "full self-driving without LIDAR" thing, which keeps getting…

> If I had to make a bet on when it was possible, I'd say 25 years. Maybe 10 if Tesla goes all-in on robots and spends tens of billions on it, Manhattan project style. I have a decade of experience in robotics (including both humanoid robots and self-driving cars) and I think this is optimistic. Robotics is a wonderful field if you like to work on hard research problems. It is a terrible field if you're trying to inv…

If solid state battery tech takes off, it's entirely possible within a decade.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by andyxor »

klintcho wrote: post #127
sixQuarks wrote: post #28

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Sure, you can say that, but name another person with a more impressive track record of actual accomplishments.

It's quite interesting how people keep betting against Elon. The HN crowd should consist of mostly risk-tolerant personalities, but the majority of comments are negative. Regardless of what one might think of the feasibility, no other company in the world today are as ambitions as SpaceX and Tesla (+ Neuralink). Feels like what Apple used to be during the "one more thing"-era. Both Tesla and SpaceX has been discounte…

Not to take away from their brilliant engineering accomplishments, but SpaceX and Tesla were dealing with technically solved problems. We (as a species) have been to space, and we know how to build electric batteries and cars.

These were at the advanced engineering stage after enormous scientific progress of the last few hundred years and going all the way back to beginning of physics and math.

With AI we are at pre-science stage, hunting mammoths with flint arrowheads and wooden spears.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by sterlind »

Joeri wrote: post #181
systemvoltage wrote: post #136

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You've left out manufacturing. Building a car factory + supply chain is quite the challenge. Tesla had the best and the brightest - I've worked with them before they were acquired by Tesla on a daily basis: https://teslagrohmannautomation.de/en/ and still had trouble scaling. Manufacturing is considered to be one of the hardest things about building cars - electric or not. Edit: What's with the downvotes? Disagree? C…

According to musk manufacturing is the hardest part of rocketry as well.

that makes sense. rockets are big dumb objects with incredibly tight engineering tolerances. humanoid robots are anything but big and dumb, and there's no incremental path to success between a bunch of servos wired to a mannequin and having it do the dishes.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by fragmede »

pontusrehula wrote: post #168
OnlineGladiator wrote: post #129

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> If I had to make a bet on when it was possible, I'd say 25 years. Maybe 10 if Tesla goes all-in on robots and spends tens of billions on it, Manhattan project style. I have a decade of experience in robotics (including both humanoid robots and self-driving cars) and I think this is optimistic. Robotics is a wonderful field if you like to work on hard research problems. It is a terrible field if you're trying to inv…

I think industrial robotics is a well established and profitable field.

that Tesla is in the process of building up expertise in. The Fremont, Nevada, China, and German Tesla factories are all filled to the brim with industrial robots.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by wallaBBB »

rococode wrote: post #80
CommieBobDole wrote: post #53

Musk seems to have fallen for the idea that since he's had great success in one or two areas, he can easily repeat that success in other areas, even if the difficulty is much higher and entirely different skills are required. SpaceX and Tesla are great achievements, but they are primarily stories of successfully implementing and improving existing technologies with innovative engineering and business practices (like…

I feel people said the same thing about him for SpaceX and Tesla back when he was just the wacky PayPal guy. Remember SpaceX's first launch was in 2006 (before the iPhone existed!) and it's only started getting really serious traction in the past 5 years. Elon's no stranger to things that don't have any "useful form" for well over a decade. I'm quite certain he's aware of the realistic timelines, and he sells a diffe…

Hmmm one correction, SpaceX main driver is Gwynne and I doubt SpaceX would have been even close to what it is now if not for her. Musk is there more front face for the public. Tesla is his child, but so are many other (now obviously failed) projects.

Re: Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot”

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Post by notJim »

mrjangles wrote: post #146
rococode wrote: post #80

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I feel people said the same thing about him for SpaceX and Tesla back when he was just the wacky PayPal guy. Remember SpaceX's first launch was in 2006 (before the iPhone existed!) and it's only started getting really serious traction in the past 5 years. Elon's no stranger to things that don't have any "useful form" for well over a decade. I'm quite certain he's aware of the realistic timelines, and he sells a diffe…

I like Musk, and I've been following his progress since 2011. I always thought he seemed very intelligent and seemed to really understand what he was doing. However I have to agree with the person you are replying to. There has been the sort of myth going around that making rockets is hard. It used to be hard... 50 years ago. That is literally the technology Musk has been using for the last 20 years: 50 year old tech…

> Furthermore, if you have been following closely, you would have seen the huge and humiliating mess ups he had with Tesla where he literally flushed billions and billions of dollars down the toilet.

What is this in reference to?

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